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Have become interested in the G2 Contender in .375 JDJ. How well would it work on deer to moose to 200 yards?
 
Posts: 148 | Location: behind a cabbage plant on a hot August Day | Registered: 29 October 2003Reply With Quote
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I considered the contenders 10 years before I ever actully got into them. My expiriance was that they performed better than I ever would have hoped for and now 20 years later I still think of them being amazed at how well they shoot.


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I just put a cheap red dot scope on my new G2 30-30 carbine barrel. About 10 shots later: 3 shots touching at 100 yds. No kidding. Wow. Wonder what it would do with a real scope? And, what a pleasure to carry!
Go for it, and enjoy!
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IIRC, the 375 JDJ is the 444 Marlin necked down and will get ~ 2000 fps with a 270 grain bullet...depending on barrel length. That should do just fine at the ranges you're talking about. Those Contenders always shot better than I can! thumb


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Thanks to all that looked or responded. 375JDJ appears that it will be a handfull in such a little gun. However if I am able to shoot a 3" 12 ga in a single shot, the 375JDJ should be do able.
 
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I know I am resurrecting this thread but I have been working with a 21" barreled s/s T/C Contender carbine chambered in 375JDJ and I mounted a Leupold Vari-X 111 2.5-8X Boone & Crockett reticle scope.

I am loading from 220gr Hornady FP - 270gr Hornady SP & RN.

My hunting loads for this hunt are 260gr Nosler Partitions and Accubonds and I am getting appr 2300fps muzzle velocity with both bullets.

The high BC .473 of the Accubonds give me a retained velocity of appr 1800fps @ 300 yards.

With the scope sighted dead on @ 100 yards the bullet hits 1" high with the main reticle cross hair, with the first B&C line down held dead on @ 200 yards the bullets hit 1" high and with the second B&C line down are dead on @ 300 yards.

I'd say that with the 260gr Accubond this is a 300 yard moose/elk/deer/black bear cartridge/rifle/bullet combo.

Here is a picture of the rifle except I just installed a taller front sight.




I am taking it on my grizzly hunt this spring
 
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It would do just fine. I use the original Contenders (not G2s) for much of my hunting.







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That second pig down is huge... Smiler

Here is another one of mine shot @ 210 yards with a 21" factory 30-30 barrel rechambered to 308Bellm 150gr = 2620fps. I had my factory 223 barrel on when I spotted the deer switched barrels to the 308Bellm and ended up doing a successful stalk.



Coyote that I called into 40 yards load was 40gr V-Max @ 3440fps from my factory 223 barrel.



I was in full snow camo when I did the shooting which is why the gun is wrapped up as well.
 
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I have four contenders and 8 or so barrels. I've pretty much kept four barrels on the guns as follows:

1. 10" .30 Herrett Bullberry barrel with a red dot scope.

2. 16" factory .30/30 barrel with wood factory carbine stock/forend (blued)

3. 20" Bullberry barrel in 7x30 Waters with composite factory stock and Bullberry forend (stainless)

4. 23" .35 Remington factory barrel with factory composite stock/forend. (blued)

The carbines all have 1.5x5x Leupolds which are light, all you need to 200+ yards and don't look out of place on the tiny guns.

I used to handload spire point bullets in the carbines, but with the new LeveRevelolution Hornady loads in .30/30 and .35 Rem, I find deer-sized animals aren't very safe out to 200 yards with my groups well less than m.o.a. Bang/flops are the rule.

With the 7/30 I still have to handload, but at the velocity produced, I find I get great performance with Nosler BT's at 120 grains with no bullet blow ups. As with most Bullberry barrels, it shoots .5" when I concentrate.

Contenders aren't particularly pretty, but they dang sure do their business well. When I sling one over my back and putt a few miles back into my lease, I forget that I even have it there. I find them a joy to hunt with.


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I have an 18" carbine and a 16" Pistol barrel in .411JDJ. I have shot countless whitetails over the years with both. Using a 210gr Hornady XTP and 44gr of Reloader #7, you can knock a deer several yards, and make them do all kinds of arial gymnastics, at ranges from 7yds out to 250yds. Cool Big Grin
Based on this experience, I think the .375JDJ should be a fantastic round. For NA game though, I would strongly consider a pistol bullet for maximum expansion. Hornady's XTP does an exceptional job on animals up to elk size.
Thanks, ND BOOM


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I didn't know there were .375" pistol bullets available?

You thinking .357" ?
 
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Although not in the caliber of your choice...I'd say this one was real good unless of course you happen to be a coyote.



Yep this one concurs..

 
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Moki,
My bad!!!
I was thinking of the .475 Linebaugh...had it in my head that it was .375??? Sorry about that...old age kicking in.
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Moki: Would you like to share your 308 Bellm load details? I could try it out in my 16 1/4" barrel and then we would know what the extra 4 3/4' inches of barrel does for velocity.
 
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Many years ago I had a Contender pistol with 4 barrels.
I shot prairie dogs with my 22 K Hornet, and an antelope with a 30 Herrett.

However I am just not a scoped hand cannon kind of guy and sold all of my Contender stuff.

However I have shot a buddies Encore rifle with a couple of different bbls.

IMHO the Contender and Encore products are EXCELLENT. Their versitility is excellent.


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Absolute max load is 44grs IMR4064, Win LR primers with any 150gr jacketed bullet.

disclaimer; This is my data and I take no responsibility in the use of it by others.
 
Posts: 451 | Location: B.C. Canada | Registered: 20 November 2003Reply With Quote
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Hello Moki
Where can a guy buy a G2 Contender frame here in Canada?...All I have been able to find for sale are the Encores...I am not interested in them...I really like your .375 JDJ set-up...PM sent..
Thanks,
Mic


BTW when I first saw that picture of you and that nice buck in that cut block with those small stumps I thought that looks like the crap I have to cut...Then I see you are from BC...What forest district was that picture taken?





 
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Just north of Montie Lake between Vernon, Kamloops and Chase.

Ellwood Epps has 3 blued G2 Contenders in 45-70 that they have been sitting onfor a while now.

http://www.ellwoodepps.com/new...pson_center_arms.asp

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At that price they will keep sitting too. I have the reciept from the one I bought my son, with a .204 Ruger barrel was $517...out the door.
 
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That was in Canadian dollars + import fees we pay a lot more for firearms up here then you guys have to pay... thumbdown
 
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I wanted to recycle a photo I took about 6 months ago. G-1 frame.



 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by moki:
Just north of Montie Lake between Vernon, Kamloops and Chase.

Ellwood Epps has 3 blued G2 Contenders in 45-70 that they have been sitting onfor a while now.
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Thanks Moki for your reply... I log in the Vanerhoof area...I thought we were the only ones that logged that small stuff..

I'll pass on the Contender at that price...





 
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Just came back from prospecting north of Fort St James my son and I both had grizzly tags but didn't connect this year.

As we were setting up our camp we heard a shot about 2 - 3 hours later we headed out to were we hunt grizzly and there was what could have been our bear skinned out nicely and still warm... Frowner
 
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Low Wall, just a further note on Elwood Epps in Ontario. I'm a regular customer there and they do carry a good selection of T/C guns, plus they usually have a few assorted barrels in stock as well. They do mail order and are very good people to deal with.

John
 
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Hello ...jwm
You are right about Epps...I have bought used rifles from them in the past..good people!
I just don't think Contenders are worth the asking price up here when compared to other rifles...I used a Contender as my main silhouette hand gun in the mid to late eighties while living in Arizona so I am familiar with them..

Moki
To bad you had to travel all that way to find your grizz was already shot...I have done a bit of black bear hunting on the Leo Creek road up to the Driftwood River...





 
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