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This might be a silly idea, but...I've been thinking lately about getting a custom single shot 270 made for me.

I stalk axis deer and mouflon here in Hawaii on really rough lava rock in very hot weather. Its a backpack hunt, packing in several mils and then packing out. Having a break down, light weight single shot seems to be the ticket for my hunting. That way after the kill I can break down the rifle and strap it to my pack frame when I have the long pack out with the meat. I should clarify, by "custom" I mean me and a gunsmith buddy putting something together and not getting a high-end gun...

I make do with a bolt 30-06 but making my way back in 90 heat with 50lbs of meat in a packframe while trying to deal with 8lbs of rifle/scope/ammunition/sling etc is getting old.


270 would work well for the ranges and game shot, and also we have very limited ammo section on the outer islands I hunt on and 270 is one of the only availible calibers in store.

My question is what action would you recomend to start with?

Or is my idea silly? Just some thoughts in my head...


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Posts: 364 | Location: Hawaii | Registered: 30 July 2004Reply With Quote
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Buy a takedown M99 in 300 Savage and bring a box of ammunition in the carry-case you have the local saddlemaker make for you.

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You have hit the nail on the head as to what the break open single shot rifle was designed for.
Hunters in the Alps expireanced the same problems as you have. I discovered the need for light weight, portabilety (break down and put in your pack)and accuracy wich seemed to be a tall order from hunting in the mountains here in Alaska.
The gunmakers in Germany and Austria who were building rifles for those Alpine hunters devloped just this break down single shot rifle or as they say Kipplaufbuchse. Untill recently these were hand made in places like Ferlach. Fortunantly today companys like Merkel, Blaser,Kreigoff etc are making fine but less expensive Kipplaufbuchse's They are still spendy but much less than the Ferlach guns.
You can just buy a N.E.c.G. or encore as well.


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Factory options, but for the weight. I'm not sure of the calibers available.

Knight KP1 break open
Browning BLR takedown
Win 1895 takedown
Savage 99 takedown (mostly collectable now)
TC Encore w/folding stock??
 
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Just buy a Thompson Center TCR-87 (or TCR-83). Cabellas in Omaha has one in their "Gun Library" right now. It is in .30-06 and has double set triggers and I think the price was less than $600 with a cheapo scope on it. It's easy to get info on Cabbelas from their web site and I think all their "Gun Library" firearms may even be veiwed from their web site. - DON
 
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blaser KS95 is the ideal thing for this, but is a high buck piece
 
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Chasseur: A contender carbine would be perfect for your application. The contender is 3/4 to 1 pound lighter than an Encore. I would buy a contender carbine in 30/30. Send the barrel to Mike Bellm and have him chamber it to 308 Bellm and re-crown the factory barrel. Mine shoots 3/4" groups and gives me 300 Savage velocities. 5 3/4 pounds with scope and 16 1/4" barrel. You can take it down and assemble it with a Leatherman in about a minute. I use 130 grain Hornady SSP bullets but the 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips work well also.
A slightly heavier option is a mini-mauser action with a 6.8 SPC barrel in a lightweight synthetic stock. If you are carefull about lightweight components, you could have a repeating rifle of about 6 lbs.
 
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In my opinnion you would be much better off with a Ruger No. 1A but its not a break down..but if you plan on hunting with the rifle broken down, thats not my cup of tea..I always want my rifle ready and handy for that window of opertunity that surprises you when you least expect it.

I have a Savage Mod. 219 break down 30-30 and can shoot spitzer bullets in it and its a cute toy to play with and very effective deer rifle under most conditions, but I never carry it broke down.


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If you can afford the best , check this page,: thomasnowak.com. They produce synthetic stocks for Blasers. They also sell the complete rifle synthetic stocked . I think one of their Blaser K-95 would be top. I am a K-95 user -althoug wood stocked- and can assure that is a joy to climb mountains and pack it on the rucksack. Also is incredibly light and accurate.
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I have a Blaser K 95 Stutzen in 308.
While kinda pricey it shots under 1 MOA with the 7 different loads I have tried in it, with 150 165, 168, and 180 grain bullets.

They are very light weight and can be taked down and reassembled wth out tools in an instant. Also the scope mounts go on and off and maintain perfect zero.


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Contact Reto Buehler at 541-664-9109. He is in Medford, Oregon. He is building a few break open stalking rifles. They are top lever with double Purdey under bite. Cal. 7x57r, 7x65r, 9.3x74r, 375 H&H flanged, 450 Nitro, 500 Nitro, 600Nitro and most other rimmed calibers. It has the Rigby forearm release.
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Hardly a silly idea in any way. In fact, it is just the kind of thing a real rifle lover would build - and use!

I have been on several hunts for Sitka Blacktails on the offshore islands of Alaska, and I know exactly what you need. The main difference between our hnting areas is the temperature. The terrain is much the same, and has slippery muskeg growning amongst the mountain rocks, not just the rocks themselves!!In fact, on those hunts, my rifle was a .270 as well. A 20" barreled Mannlicher/Schoenauer carbine. It would have been much handier, had it been a takedown model as well!


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http://www.jagdwaffen-ollendorff.com/index.php?node=11&lang=EN

I'd love to have one of the bar-in-wood rifles that Philipp Ollendorff makes. I doubt they are cheap, though...
 
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KP1 : Not sure how easy it is to switch over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSlNL9X4XyU&feature=user
 
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As I have recommended the Blaser K-95 before, I can´t do the same with the Merkel K-1. Last Sunday , at the shooting range, a guide , after waiting almost two years for his Merkel K-1, experienced a broken rear open sight at the second shot. The rifle was taken immediately to the local butcher -ie. "gunsmith"-. This is unacceptable for an expensive rifle. This was bad news for me, cause I am waiting (also for almost 2 years ) a Merkel side by side shotgun, and makes me doubt of the quality control of their products.
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Poor man's Kiplauf:

http://www.czub.cz/index.php?p=32&idp=3&ids=10&idz=220&lang=en

Don't know if they are available in the US.

I saw one in 243win a few years ago, much nicer than in the photo's.


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