I am looking at a #1 in .270, but they have a 26" 24" and 20" available. This rifle is mostly for fun, and a backup to my other .270.

I really like the 20" in the international, what penalty would I pay for the short barrel?

Thanks

The 20" bbl would lose some velocity over the longer barrels, which within 200yds - 300 yds would go unnoticed, especially by deer. However, there would likely be a gain in rigidity for the shorter barrel. The only question would be the bedding of the full stock and accuracy. The No. 1s have a trigger that "bounces" yet with practice they can be accurate. I have two of the lightweights with a 22" bbl. The 7x57 is very handy to carry in the woods for an old geezer. The 45-70 is a nut-buster with "real" loads. I also have a stainless 7mm 08 with a 26" bbl that I haven't had time to shoot yet. I am hoping it will be a good one. I have a Rem 7600 in .270. I had the bbl shortened to 20" with a 90 degree target crown and Timney worked the trigger assy. It is very ugly but is accurate for a pump. I think "for fun" is the way to approach the No. 1 as they can be irritating. With forearm pressure and perhaps some trigger work, they are quite nice. I am not a fan of the full stock.

If it were me, I'd go for the 1-A with the 22 bbl simply because it looks better to my eye. If you hunt woods, put a NECG receiver sight on it and their white bead up front and you have the handiest little rifle imaginable. The 26" bbl No 1s are heavier.The 1-A makes a great carry still-hunting weapon and can be carried in the hand all day long. Similar to the convenience of a lever action but with one shot.

The 1-A is a bit lighter than the International. If you go with the receiver sight, the 1-A gives another 2 inches of sight radius.

My 2-cents.

I cannot fathom how a Ruger no1 can be considered as 'fun' or a 'backup' to another .270. They are plainly & simply, superior. You should find that it is your rifle of first choice. Of course, I'm unashamedly biased.

The 7x57 is a great calibre for the full stock version. IMO, it's the more versatile calibre, particularly if you reload & considering the shorter barrel.

The .270 WCF is one caliber that I have found by chronographing loads, that does not lose much velocity with a short barrel and in many cases it doesn't lose any, why that is I do not know, but I read that more than a few time, so I tested it out and got the same results that I read....Get the 20 inch tube if that is the one you like..

It's not possible to predict the exact velocity in any one gun. A 22" gun from one maker might be a smidge faster than another maker's 24", with the exact same loads. That said, the averages can't be denied: shorter barrels give less fps. The old Powley Computer predicts the trends fairly well. In going from 26" down to 20", it says you'll loose about 150 fps with the 130 gn bullets. How much you'll gain in muzzle blast is another issue.

my favorite rifle is my No1 International in .270 with a 2x7 Leupold, it has been a great deer killer and stopped carrying my model 70 because it is a lot lighter and handier

Kward - I started to ask you how you waterproofed your International until I noted where you live. Is it difficult to remove the stock? I've never looked at the schematic for that model.

I would get the one yhat feels and points the best for you.

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Originally posted by Jon Beutler:
I am looking at a #1 in .270, but they have a 26" 24" and 20" available. This rifle is mostly for fun, and a backup to my other .270.

I really like the 20" in the international, what penalty would I pay for the short barrel?

Thanks

I am not aware of ANY penalty for a .270 with a 20" barrel! I used two such rifles, both Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbines, for three years in Alaska with great results. Despite carrying a Win. M70 .375 H&H when hunting big bears on purpose!!, it seems I was always carrying one of the Mannlicher .270's when I actually got a shot at game! My load was the Nosler 150-grain Partition bullet with 53.5 grains of IMR 4350, and this generated slightly over 2800 from those 1/9" twist barrels. With this load from the 20" tubes, I managed to kill everything in that state with no more than two shots each, with the exception of brown bears. One of the victims of these carbines was a Sitka Blacktail of about 120 pounds shot at over 400 yards. Yes, you DO lose a little MV, but such a barrel is just as accurate as a longer one!!

If you get a Ruger RSI in .270 (OR 7X57MM), I believe you will find it more than satisfactory. (The Ruger 1A has a 22" barrel. It is likewise a good, handy weapon.)

not hard to remove the stock, just sealed the wood like any other wood stocked rifle, i have hunted montanna, Wyoming,Utah in rain and snow haven't had any problems. the rifle has been on the same zero for several years.