This is not the first maker that I have haven’t been able to identify, normally it’s one rifle from a regional maker and good quality. Not only is the workmanship above average (IMO) with this maker but I now have information on three rifles. Of the three, I have personally examined two and have good pictures of the third. Because one of the rifles has a heel and toe plate my thought was that whoever made these might have a background with or worked with shotguns as well as rifles.

These rifles are in the style of Fred Adolph and August Pachmayr with the stock carving incorporating the checkering as well as metal engraving. With all the gunsmiths, gunmakers and engravers now visiting this site I felt it was worthwhile for more folks to have a look. There is no right or wrong answers, if something jumps out at you, speak up. I’ll try to answer any questions with the exception of who the owners are. I’ll refer to the rifles as No, 1, 2 & 3.

Rifle No. 1 is very plain without stock carving, it has a schnabel forend with checkering on the end, as do the other two. The buttplate, triggerguard and floorplate are engraved. This rifle was part of a Classic rifle display at the winter Vegas show surrounded by all the “Named†makers with the majority engraved by Kornbrath or Fugger. This rifle attracted as much or more attention than many of the others and I watched as several people tried to buy it. There is no history with this rifle and no idea which part of the country it came from.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No1B.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No1A.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No1C.jpg

Rifle No. 2 is heavily carved and engraved, it was bought in Chicago about twenty-five years ago, no history is known about the original owner.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No2A.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No2B.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No2C.jpg

Rifle No. 3 The original owner was from Chicago. Research into his background is ongoing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No3A.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No3B.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No3C.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/No3D.jpg

What's the grip cap material on #1, Michael?

Checkered steel grip caps on both #2 & #3?

Michael, I'm curious why you attribute these to the same maker? No dispute, simply curious.
The #1 rifle has wonderful lines and it's no wonder folks wanted it.
SDH

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Originally posted by GrandView:
What's the grip cap material on #1, Michael?

Checkered steel grip caps on both #2 & #3?

I think No. 1 & 3 is horn I’m not sure about 2.

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Originally posted by SDH:
Michael, I'm curious why you attribute these to the same maker? No dispute, simply curious.
The #1 rifle has wonderful lines and it's no wonder folks wanted it.
SDH

All three rifles have the same checkered forend tip of which I have never seen before. We had No 1 & 3 side by side and a lot of the work was the same between both rifles. The dividing line on the pistol grip checkering is the same. Whoever this was had a thing about checkering all three rifles have checkering were it’s not seen on rifles of this age like the back of the cocking knob, the magazine cutoff slot in the wood, the end of the safety, checkered grip caps. Not all three have all of the same but enough. The checkering on both 1 & 2 run into the inletting, something I have only see on early S.R. Griffin rifles. Although the pictures do not show it well all three appear to be engraved by the same person. I believe that whoever carved the stock also engraved them. But none of this is set in stone, what I need to do is to be able to hold the third one in my hand or find a forth and fifth or better yet find one with a history to the maker.

Is #1 a Pachmayr?????

Looks similar to the ones I saw in the old Pasadena shop.

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Originally posted by 333_OKH:
Is #1 a Pachmayr?????

Looks similar to the ones I saw in the old Pasadena shop.

I do not believe that any of the three rifles were made by August Pachmayer.

Michael,

Sorry I can't be of any assistance, but I really appreciate getting to see the pictures. some beautiful rifles.