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Utilizing a ZEISS SCOPE with factory rail to "Normal" non rail rifles?
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Is there a mount(s) systems/adapterslugs to use a Zeiss Victory with factory rail system to be used on non rail Rifle applications? horse


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Like this?

Zeiss Railmount Weaver Hex Detach 490618

http://www.adorama.com/zsrmwhd.html


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I'm not sure I understand your question. Rail scopes go in specific mounts affixed to the (any) rifle.







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Photos are the old tried and true rail ,call is a male dovetail. used a lot on the Suhler claw mounts. The "New" systems are an internal "rail", call it female.

Of course, not interchangeable. special little adapters clamp to the internal rail...Don't ask me who thought of this! I can't believe the system will be around much longer..least it shouldn't be!
 
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If, Safarikid, you are wondering if there are key-hole-shaped rings to go over the entire barrel, I have never seen any such thing. I have heard of people grinding off the rails but the dural barrels are often weird diameters, though 30mm is most common now, I think.

Other than the Zeiss/Weaver mounts Speerchucker showed, the cheapest answers I have found are the chunky Optilock bases for Sakos, mated by single screws with female dovetails found online. I used old Blaser dovetails that did not need holes drilled in the rail - but most brands do.

Sako apparently doesn't offer these dovetails for Optilock bases now but Recknagel does:

http://www.alanrhone.com/kb/article.php?id=14

I would not expect any bargains, though.
 
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Thank You for all the info gents


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It probably wouldn't take much to make a base that clamped on both the rail and a weaver ring. A monkey with a CNC mill could piss them out a mile a minute. Just run a dovetail cutter for both styles through a block of steel, drill a single hole through each for an #8X40 screw and slice the base in half. The 8X#40 would also act as the recoil lug in the base and on the rail. If 1 #8X40 was not strong enough in each, the base could be made a bit taller and 2 #6X48 screws could be added, one on each side of the #8X40 on the opposing side. It would have to space the scope rail and the top of the weaver style base about .150 apart if you wanted the two #6X46 screws. It aint rocket science. Just money. I've never done it because no ones ever asked for it, so I'm pretty sure there's no demand for it, but I'm also sure it would work so long as it was made from good steel and properly heat treated.

rail mount base by Rod Henrickson, on Flickr


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
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Near as I can tell, everything you need for all these systems is available from Recknagel. I never make what I can buy
 
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99% of the time when you get a hare brained idea to make something, odds are that some other fool, or even a dozen other fools are already making it and there is no point in reproducing what they have already done.

Except of course if the other fools are doing a shitty job of it. But that doesn't happen to often and nine times out of ten some other fool has beet you to that too and you just happened to buy the shitty one. And you generally buy the shitty one because you're CHEAP !!!!! LOL

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When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
 
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