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11 September 2008, 23:45
Boss Hoss
Work in progress, Rigby
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Originally posted by pointblank:
Boss Hoss/Slowpoke Rodriguez/Speedy's best buddy is indeed a complete A$$hole. Pretty much ALL he contributes to any forum is trashing gunsmiths, barrel makers and such.


Hmmmm let's see --- I have had problems with one barrel maker and I am sure that Frank will appreciate you bringing that up but I will not comment on it! lol

Please find a post where I have "trashed" a Smith? Put up or STFU you made the allegation now back it up!! Jim does nice work my post was just a retort to the remark about "firewood" on the English being cut into slabs for curing on a different post.

In this instance your hummingbird butt has overloaded your alligator mouth diggin.
12 September 2008, 01:56
SDH
Let's please try not to trash this post.
Thanks,
Steve


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12 September 2008, 04:11
Boss Hoss
quote:
Originally posted by pointblank:
quote:
Originally posted by Boss Hoss:
quote:
Originally posted by pointblank:
Boss Hoss/Slowpoke Rodriguez/Speedy's best buddy is indeed a complete A$$hole. Pretty much ALL he contributes to any forum is trashing gunsmiths, barrel makers and such.


Hmmmm let's see --- I have had problems with one barrel maker and I am sure that Frank will appreciate you bringing that up but I will not comment on it! lol

Please find a post where I have "trashed" a Smith? Put up or STFU you made the allegation now back it up!! Jim does nice work my post was just a retort to the remark about "firewood" on the English being cut into slabs for curing on a different post.

In this instance your hummingbird butt has overloaded your alligator mouth diggin.




Here is a nice exchange you had on another forum just yesterday I believe.



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Dave, that statment is the 2nd time you mentioned it on this site. The story I heard from several people is that YOU got really took by him and didn't even know it. If he took advantage of you. He is who he is. You on the other hand are like Bill Calfee a major blow hard. You also don't know anything about me. I just help him at the shows and have nothing to do with his deals.
Your issue is with anyone who won't agree with you and when they don't you atttack them. I know Butches reputation is without blemish and he was offering you some information to be helpfull. But you replyed back with a snooty and demeaning condsending manner of I know it all and I am OZ. Dave listen to your elders and you might learn something.

Lew--If You Only Knew How Much Fun We Had With You At The Shop!!!!

Told so many different stories about flying jets and different stories about how you got your feet it was just hilarious—what a pantload not even you knew what story your were telling! Now don't go away mad just go away--yep ole Ron did skin me on a deal many years ago that is correct and I did not have a bore scope or even know how to use one back then. Thank God someone told me that they did not build the rifle---just put a finish on the barrel that they always put on guns they build. Ron is the one that said they built it.

Found out later that that is a common thing Ron does is to switch parts around on rifles and then lie about their origin but I have learned my lesson—btw with all of the guns Ron sells did he ever get a FFL? One would think that selling hundreds of rifles every year one would need one? Hey you stand next to him not me--birds of a feather flock together...
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Keep looking---he is not a Smith and there is a lot more to that than meets the eye!!! Look real hard because it does not exist!! Will look at this later--leaving for a hunt tomorrow at 3am.
12 September 2008, 04:30
pointblank
No need explaining Hoss, I don't really care what this exchange is about. It just shows others on this forum that don't already know, jusy what they are really dealing with.
12 September 2008, 04:34
pointblank
SDH, you are absolutely right. I have deleted my posts and won't engage with BH again.
12 September 2008, 04:54
CAS II
Jim,

Your work looks great! Screw the detractors.

Interesting grip cap. I hope you show a picture of that thing when it is installed.

Keep the pictures coming, you have a lot of talent.
12 September 2008, 07:14
.366torque
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Originally posted by CAS II:
Jim,

Your work looks great! Screw the detractors.

Interesting grip cap. I hope you show a picture of that thing when it is installed.

Keep the pictures coming, you have a lot of talent.


Yes Jim, please continue. They are invigorating, to say the least!
12 September 2008, 18:40
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14 September 2008, 04:01
Jim Kobe
Well back again. I got a bit caught up so I got back to the Rigby

The following pictures show how I take the majority of the extra wood off and at the same time I establish the flat surfaces where I want them. I use a combination of an end mill for pofiling and a fly cutter to establish the flats.

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14 September 2008, 04:53
cmfic1
Awesome work Jim, this is killing me!


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14 September 2008, 08:19
Rick R
Really neat watching a high grade rifle being born!

Thanks for the peek into how your mind (and tools) work. beer
14 September 2008, 15:30
D Humbarger
Nothin to it. Just take away everything that doesn't look like a gun stock. Huh Jim? Wink



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14 September 2008, 22:46
flaco
I'm impressed, Jim-

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15 September 2008, 00:16
tin can
Hellish interesting- the photo of the "stepped" cuts on the buttstock and the following one showing the next phase of the wood removal is fascinating.

I too really like the photo of the initial cut for the distinctive grip cap.

I guy has to be pretty secure in his abilities and methods to share them with us like this.
15 September 2008, 00:35
J_Zola
Jim, I love the work inprogress photo's. Pictures of the bulk material removal always make my stomach turn. One wrong move and you have a live time supply of knife hands.
27 October 2008, 21:55
Jim Kobe
Finished and checkered coming up shortly


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952.884.6031
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27 October 2008, 22:13
Clayman
This is a great thread. The photo journal of this rifle being created is really amazing. Jim, you've got some amazing skills. I can't wait for the next series of pix.


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28 October 2008, 00:11
srtrax
Mr. Kobe;
I may be seeing more fiddleback than what might be tool marks. A picture is worth a thousand words... but, the finial shaping I would think was done by hand? The picture of the grip cap and buttplate look to be flush. Does raising the grain and sanding in the stock keep you flush with the cap and buttplate? Is there more wood there than what I'm seeing?
Thanks, I'm here to learn and thanks to this forum and thoes that will show there work...it's a gift to all of us!


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28 October 2008, 02:28
Jim Kobe
The final sanding is done with the grip cap and buttplate in place. I do not raise the grain per se, I fill and then sand in the finish. the wood is brought flush with the metal parts with sanding after filing it down.


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10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

28 October 2008, 08:01
Duane Wiebe
Good show....would you care to submit it for ACGG membership? You're way ahead of the curve anyway...
28 October 2008, 18:52
srtrax
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Good show....would you care to submit it for ACGG membership? You're way ahead of the curve anyway...


Thank you for answering my questions. I have used the mill for small wood work on a mill but even seeing you do this I dont think i would attempt it myself, to much clean up... rotflmo
A true pro with a diffrent way of doing this!
It's not finished, so keep the pictures coming, I like that stock.


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28 October 2008, 20:53
AllenBosely
Jim, thanks for taking the time to stop and take pictures and post them!

I really enjoy and appreciate seeing how it's done and then seeing the final results.

It's really interesting to see some of the little thing like fitting the grip cap with the points.
When I see the finished work, I look at it and think how in the dickens did they ever do that?

Thanks again, Allen


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29 October 2008, 22:12
Jim Kobe
the following pictures are of the checkering; how I lay it out and the finished product at 24 LPI.



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Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

29 October 2008, 22:30
.366torque
Fantastic!! How's the lucky recipient doing? Man to commission a rifle like that!
Dare to dream!
29 October 2008, 22:55
butchlambert
Old Minnesota boy is doing good.
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30 October 2008, 02:21
jorge
Very nice work indeed Jim. :::SIGH::: where were you when I was ordering my custom rifle...Life's not fair Frowner jorge


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31 October 2008, 04:11
Shane Thompson
Very nice pictoral Jim, the rifle looks great.

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31 October 2008, 06:33
shootaway
Beautiful!
31 October 2008, 07:17
D Humbarger
Very nice to see these great photos Jim. Thanks. Please keep them coming.



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31 October 2008, 11:25
akjeff
Just found this thread; glad it got back on track, and not mired down in a bunch of nonsense, as happens too many times. Beautiful work, Jim! Look forward to seeing more. Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.

Jeff
31 October 2008, 19:51
stocker
Jim:
I haven't seen that grip cap before. It appears to be two inter-connected pieces with no screws left visible. How do the 2 pieces interlock to allow removal for blueing, engraving etc. and still maintain positive lock-up? Appears to be a very tidy touch.

I can see by what you accomplish with the mill that I am still doing it the hard way.

Thank you.


stocker
31 October 2008, 23:48
Marc_Stokeld
That is one hell of a nice rifle you have there Kobe! I mean it an-wow, good job!

And thanks for taking and posting the pics. I know that was a good deal of extra work for you, but I am sure I speak for most on this board that your extra work has now been enjoyed by many. WIthout the pics just the rifle owner would enjoy it. This way, we all get to enjoy it along with him.

Can't wait to see the finished product.
01 November 2008, 01:49
Jim Kobe
quote:
Originally posted by stocker:
Jim:
I haven't seen that grip cap before. It appears to be two inter-connected pieces with no screws left visible. How do the 2 pieces interlock to allow removal for blueing, engraving etc. and still maintain positive lock-up? Appears to be a very tidy touch.

I can see by what you accomplish with the mill that I am still doing it the hard way.

Thank you.



That is the first one of those I did. The grip cap was brought to me by the owner, and engraver. The cap is dovetailed to the inside piece somewhat like the dovetail on the Leupold front scope rings. It is held in place by a spring loaded pin that slips into a detent in the outside/bottom part. I don't know where he gets them.


Jim Kobe
10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

01 November 2008, 01:59
stocker
Ahhhh; logical and clever. When the first picture appeared that showed the large hole for the dovetail but not the top piece I thought it was a dummy with provision for cast alignment. Then the hole disappeared and it took a while for my pea brain to grasp there was a second component. I like the idea that the engraver can work on that part with no disruption to the fitting of the base to the stock. Very neat.
Thanks for the explanation.


stocker
01 November 2008, 08:27
Thaine
Jim, I really appreciate your taking the time and sharing this photo tutorial with us. We do have one thing in common when working with wood. You know that pile that was under the stock, the chips and shavings? Well I am just as good as anyone at making those. Only problem is that when I have created them I can't find anything that resembles a stock left!! I wish I had 2% of the talent you and the other artists exhibit here. Really a beautiful job. Please keep the instalments coming so that we can see the finished product. Really great work.


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04 January 2010, 04:01
Jim Kobe
Here is an update to a really old thread. This rifle is being engraved by one of the local engravers and was displayed at the ACGG expo in Reno last year. It will be displayed again this year along with another project that I have done if it warrants approval by the members to gain full membership in the guild for me. Wish me luck.

Jim


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10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

04 January 2010, 04:20
<Mike McGuire>
Great thread. I had no idea the sling swivels, grip cap and butt plate were fitted when the stock was still basically in the raw state.
04 January 2010, 04:21
richj
Very nice work. I too love these work-in-progress pics.

Break a leg
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04 January 2010, 05:02
MJines
Jim, you and Duane are to be applauded for doing the progress photos. They are a great way to see how things are done and appreciate the level of work and craftsmanship that goes into a full custom job. Very nice work.


Mike
04 January 2010, 06:29
cmfic1
Good luck Jim.

Do you have pic(s) of the finished Rigby, as well as the other one your taking to the ACGG Expo?


Rod

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