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Gentlemen: I intend to build a light 30-06 on a pre '64 model 70. The rifle will be driven around on muddy roads via 4-wheeler, etc. Read, well and hard use. The lightweigt fill McMillan is the easiest to bed, etc. The Banser is light but takes some work. Stocks from Brown Precision are really light but lots of work. What I need is some opinions from those of you who have one or more of the above. Would you use the one you have or switch? Ease of bedding/finishing? Quality of product and service? I really do appreicate your input. Thank you in advance, Arthur
 
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I've never used the Banser, but I have done my share of McMillans and Brown Precisions. Either of these would be a good choice. If you like the Brown Precision but are not up to spending the time, nothing say's "ease" quite like hiring it done.

Had a customer years ago who stuck unfinished Brown Precision stocks on all of his pre 64's. No fill, no sandpaper, primer or paint. All he wanted was bedding, pads and sling studs.

He beat the hell out of these guns over the next 20 years but you couldn't tell by looking at them. Just a thought. Big Grin


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I've used the MPI while light requires a lot of work. Unless you have them do it. Last couple light ones have been High-Tech. They have been in used for about 10 years and still going strong.


As usual just my $.02
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pics of the MPI ramrod?
 
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I added the palm swell and built it as a blind box.



As usual just my $.02
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did MPI do all the installation of the action to the stock or did someone else/you?

are you satisfied with the result?
 
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I did the install, closed in the magazine box, and paint. Used a M98 action, bold trigger and an ADL trigger guard. Douglas barrel in my 340PDK. Weight is just over 7#.

The stock needed some smoothing an a little fill along the seam line. It was their 16 OZ stock.

I've built two using the High Tech stock. It feels a little more like plastic but has held up on my wife's 7x57 and my 280PDK. It requires less work but is a little over 20 oz. Here is hers it is only a 12.5" pull and 22" light contour barrel.



As usual just my $.02
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My one Banser HiTech was junk. If I hadn't bought it from an individual, I would have sent it back. The McMillan is by far easiest to work, but the grip is too large for me. I have 3 Browns that came off Remington Mod 7s and I love them. Took a little work but not too awful much.
This is my Mod.7 in 6.5X47Lapua.

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I've used stocks from Brown Precision, Lee Six, McMillan, Bansner, H-S, Bell and Carlson. Macmillan is at the top of the list as far as ease of use and finish is concerned. In addition they are very rigid and nicely shaped. The only drawback is the relatively high cost. I was able to buy three bansners for the same price as the last Edge I got.
The Bansners are nice and I've used a bunch of them. In letting isn't too far off as a rule and the surface requires very little work prior to finishing.
I have never worked with a Brown Precision that I liked at the outset and didn't positively hate by the time I was done with it. All other makers would be ashamed to produce anything that bad. I have one in the shop now and it's hateful too. Lee Six's stocks were much better than Brown's but were a bit heavier. Of course, this might have been because they had enough resin in them to actually cover the cloth. Also, Lee used foam as a filler rather than newspaper and hot dog wrappers.
Bell& Carlson is a handle and a fairly heavy one at that. Regards, Bill
 
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