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Hey Guys,

Just trying to get opinions on Lone Wolf Stocks.

How do they compare to McMillan?

Do they hold up?

Thanks,

ddj


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I only had one; on an M1 Garand but it was well executed and very strong. I would use them again based that sample of one.


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Lone Wolf must not be very popular?

That might be my answer.

ddj


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Not really, they don't chase the consumer that hard. Kind of like Half Moon Rifle Shop; their products have more of a professional gunsmith client base and few have heard of their barrels. But they are outstanding barrels.


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There are 4 of them sitting on my work bench waiting to be finished right now. I've done a few others, both carbon and Kevlar, and they are OK.

Much lighter than McMillan, fairly stiff through the fore end. Don't expect them to be a drop-in like McMillan. They require a BUNCH of work to finish, and that could be an understatement. The inletting is pretty poor, and the bottom metal inletting is downright wretched. Mold lines will take quite a bit of work to get right.

The biggest complaint I have with them is that if you are a big guy who requires a longer LOP, you will most likely have to add spacers, as most patterns come pretty short. The hunting patterns pretty much come at a hair over 12.5" less pad, which limits you to about 13 5/8" finished with a 1" pad.

If you are willing to either spend the time or money to get them finished, they can be a pretty nice stock.
 
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Thanks CAS,

What about if I have them finish the whole works? My length of pull is around 13 1/2.

ddj


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Mine was two-piece and finished and fitted by Lone Wolf so I didn't have the trouble CAS II had. I always wondered if their method of glass bedding a bolt gun using glass cloth made much of a difference. It sure should stiffen the forend some more.


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I had one on a custom rifle and loved it.

Lone Wolf did the finally assembly of my custom gun.

The fit was perfect. I put index marks on my stock screws and I could dis-assemble and re-assemble the rifle for travel and zero stayed within 1/2 inch.


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I have never had them finish one, but have no doubts that they would do a fine job.
 
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I have been told that Lone Wolf has a slender grip and profile as compared to McMillan. Anyone have any experience with this.

I am looking for a hunting rifle that is:
Lightweight
durable
open slender grip
slender foreend.

Thanks
ddj


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What did your searches turn up? The stocks have been discussed several times.

I have used 2 of their stocks, one on a personal rifle I still have. Both of these were CF in the very lightest stock they make. The Lone Wolf is an entirely different animal than the Mc and are made to fill a different role. If you want the lightest possible weight then you have to go with the LW. The grip is very slim and open.

If you are building a true fly-weight rifle then do not expect benchrest groups. They rae very finicky in how they are handled, as a slightly different hold and position has a large impact percentagewise on the mass of the rifle. They are totally fine for hunting, but soem folks get hung up on a rifle not shooting into 1/4" even though it has absolutely nothing to do with huinting.

Also be aware that the person making the rifle needs to understand how a gun should balance. I have read more BS in gun rags about how light guns are hard to hold steady, shakey in the field, blah, blah, blah. That is complete and total BS. A poorly balanced rifle is hard to hold steady and shakey in the field, regardless of its weight. I have made off hand kills with a 5# 12oz (scoped and ready to go) rifle while shooting off my left shoulder, leaning forward, and ducking down. I had this rifle down to 5# 6oz before and it was fine, but the balance is just perfect at the heavier weight.

As a side note, I used to shoot sihlouettes and have fired many, many, many thousands of rounds off hand. When I was ocmpeteing I could and did sight in rifles off hand. Point being most folks don't shoot that much and if things are not perfect they blame the rifle for the miss. If they grew up reading light rifles are impossible to shoot in the field then that is the perfect scapegoat.

If you want a light rifle and like slim stocks, then the LW is perfect. I love slim, trim rifles so the LW feels great in my hands.
 
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Comparing the dimensions of a Lone Wolf stock to a McMillan is like comparing the dimensions of a GM vehicle to a Ford vehicle. There are so many different models that you need to be much more specific.

Lone Wolf certainly fits the bill for your blueprint, as would Brown Precision. Both make nice stocks.
 
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Here is my Lone Wolf on a Rem 700. I believe this stock weighed 14 OZ.





Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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