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Can you recommend a de-greaser that won't harm existing bluing?

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09 July 2005, 08:43
cas
Can you recommend a de-greaser that won't harm existing bluing?
I'd like to get some recommendations for de-greaser (as in remove oil) that won't harm existing blue? I'm using a few things, but I'm not overly thrilled with any of them. Any suggestions?

EDIT: I should have given more info. This isn't a once in a while thing, it's an often thing. Big Grin And I'm talking about revolver cylinder throats, which don't lend themselves to scrubbing. I've been using Birchwood Casey gun scrubber as well as non chlorinated brake cleaner. Neither is getting the cutting oil out as well as I need.


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09 July 2005, 09:11
new_guy
carburator cleaner from your local auto parts store.


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09 July 2005, 09:23
rootbeer
DO NOT USE CARBURETOR CLEANER!! The stuff is very powerful and will eat just about any metal if it stays in contact too long. I'd try a little Murphy's Oil Soap and a lot of elbow grease or just some Dawn dishwashing liquid and then blow dry with high-pressure air (if you have access to it) or use cotton towels right away. Low-tech? Maybe, but cheaper than a reblue.
09 July 2005, 09:29
ShopCartRacing
B-C Gun Scrubber
K-B Gunk Out
G96 Crud Buster

the list goes on and on, none harm bluing and they are all high pressure, which is nice for blowing out junk.

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09 July 2005, 15:54
eddieharren
Why is there cutting oil in your cylinder throats?
09 July 2005, 16:07
mete
Boiling solution of TSP [trisodiumphosphate] will quickly remove oil, the varnish from oxidized oil,etc.DO NOT USE ON ALUMINUM.
09 July 2005, 16:33
jeffeosso
simply green...
rinse...
treat IMMEDIATLY or you will get surface rust

if you buy the concetrate, use warm water to dilute

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09 July 2005, 17:52
new_guy
quote:
Originally posted by rootbeer:
DO NOT USE CARBURETOR CLEANER!! The stuff is very powerful and will eat just about any metal if it stays in contact too long. I'd try a little Murphy's Oil Soap and a lot of elbow grease or just some Dawn dishwashing liquid and then blow dry with high-pressure air (if you have access to it) or use cotton towels right away. Low-tech? Maybe, but cheaper than a reblue.


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09 July 2005, 18:04
tiggertate
Another option is one of the citrus oil products. You want a 100% oil, not a detergent blend. Sometimes you can find it at auto parts stores being sold as a non-petroleum engine cleaner in a spray can.


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09 July 2005, 18:33
steve65
miletec1..................

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09 July 2005, 18:37
steve65
sorry its not a degreaser...............but good for every thing else. clap
09 July 2005, 20:04
iamgene
Non-chlorinated disc brake cleaners, the aerosol cans..ala STP, Prestone and Tech One by Wally Mart.
09 July 2005, 20:54
HP Shooter
quote:
Originally posted by iamgene:
Non-chlorinated disc brake cleaners, the aerosol cans..ala STP, Prestone and Tech One by Wally Mart.


+1. It doesn't harm ANY metal finish that is used in firearms. It makes blueing, parkerizing, and anodizing look dull only because it *completely* removes all traces of oil and grease. Relube and it looks like new.
09 July 2005, 21:00
Rick 0311
Ditto to iamgene’s suggestion.

I have been using arosol brake cleaner for degreasing guns, tools, and just about everything else for years and have never had a problem with damage to a finish. Plain old ATF also works well for cutting heavy grease deposits.

Simple Green and the newer Citrus products work pretty good also but require allot of soaking and scrubbing.

Another harmless solution that works similar to Simple Green and Citrus products and is good on grease is Dr. Bronners castile soap...and it smells good too! Smiler
09 July 2005, 21:22
DMB
Quicksilver Carb cleaner.
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09 July 2005, 21:37
Rick 0311
cas,

How are you getting “grease†building up in your cylinder throats anyway?
09 July 2005, 22:02
Savage99
quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
cas,

How are you getting “grease†building up in your cylinder throats anyway?


A clarification is needed as to what you are trying to remove from the cylinders? If they are free from fouling a little oil will be a benefit?


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09 July 2005, 22:58
cas
LOL... I ream cylinder throats. www.cylindersmith.com/ After I work on them I cold blue them for a little temporary rust protection, and mostly because people like to see them blue again when they get them back. Big Grin

I've used BC Gun scrubber as well as brake cleaner from Wally World for years. But I recently started using "Cool Tool 2" as a cutting oil. It's working MUCH better than what I used in the past, however I'm not having much luck with degreasing them well enough afterwards.


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09 July 2005, 23:11
Customstox
cas,
As Jeffe said, simple green. The best degreasers are needed when you rust blue and this is the go to cleaner now for that. I have found some auto commercial cleaners that seem to do as well.


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10 July 2005, 00:28
cas
Thanks guys, I'll pick some up and give it a try.


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10 July 2005, 05:31
delloro
CRC contact cleaner. it's good ol' chlorinated solvent, so it works the best but costs the most.

read the labels. you do not want any methanol in it for the best grease removal.
10 July 2005, 09:11
LorenS
Gasoline or Kerosene
WD-40
Liquid Wrench


When cleaning my bike I use Gas, diesel fuel or WD-40 and then simple green. The fuels thin the grease enough for the soap to dissolve them.
10 July 2005, 23:39
rootbeer
new_guy:

I once was witness to a carburetor having been soaked in carb cleaner for what was obviously too long a period of time. The thing was pitted and looked like it had been shotpeened. I would never clean a gun with the stuff. Elbow grease is non-toxic and washes right off with hot water and soap. Why risk it?
11 July 2005, 03:43
dempsey
Most carbs are some sort of aluminum alloy.


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11 July 2005, 06:38
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Acetone