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I just found my blued shotgun has 1 small spot of fairly serious rust on just one place.
Is there any reasonable way to deal with short of redoing the whole barrel?
It doesn't need to be museum quality, but I won't accept it looking like I went over it with a paint roller.






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It can be done and will match pretty good. I have used steel wool to clean up the area and hope that it isn't deep enough to be necessary to use some 320 emory. Clean with hot soapy water and then apply some of Mark Lee's rust blue. After a few minutes use a clean cloth folded several times. Apply clean water with the cloth and follow up with a hot iron to steam the area being repaired. Card off and repeat several times until you get a matching color. I have used this methods on O/U's and doubles.
 
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I'm aaaalomost tracking with you. So very close. What does card off mean?






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A method I have had good success with, if the rust is light, is to soak the rust for a few days with an oily rag until it softens and then card it off with the mouth of a brass cartridge case or a copper penny which has been filed down to a sharp edge. Once the rust is gone clean the brass or copper off the steel with a copper removing bore cleaner like CR-10 or Montana Extreme. This method will not scratch the steel and is easy on the bluing.
 
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What does card off mean?

You remove the rust. Some use 0000 steel wool that has been degreased. I used this method on an old muzzle loader.

When carding off the rust, you are only trying to remove the loosely adhering scale. Using a coarse cloth such as an old piece of denim blue jeans works fine for this. You can also use an old toothbrush in the hard to reach areas. The advantage of carding with a piece of cloth is that no matter how hard you rub, you can’t go too far. Some gunsmiths prefer using 0000 steel wool for carding. If you use steel wool, it is possible to completely remove the brown by carding too vigorously. If you are striving for a very smooth/glossy brown carding with 0000 does work particularly well. Just make sure you do not card too hard. The smoother the steel is to start with and the smoother you card the surface, the smoother the final finish will be.


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where does the term "carding" coming from?

Why not just say wipe or remove or buff or rub?


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Carding - a wire toothed brush for brushing wool etc . From my 1935 F&W
 
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Carding - a wire toothed brush for brushing wool etc . From my 1935 F&W



This, I still buy "file cards" to clean my files.
 
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Carding - a wire toothed brush for brushing wool etc . From my 1935 F&W



This, I still buy "file cards" to clean my files.


Yep that's it. I have a few in the tool box


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Depending on how big, how deep, what the original surface bluing looks like, etc, WD-40, LPS, Kroil, navel jelly or just about ANY "de-ruster" and 0000 steel wool will work...just ber SURE to try the product on a tiny area that can't be see to be sure it won't eat the bluing...as bluing is a form of rust.

But I also use a motodremel tool with the fine wire brush or the wheel as I can control just how big the surrounding surface is affected...

Then degrease...spray brake cleaner is excellent... and use a bluing PEN to touch it up...much easier to use on small spots than a Q-tip.

Every "home depot" or the like will have all the products you need including small wire and brass brushes AND a cheap motodremel tool and accessories.

Mike....where'ya'ben?...the term "carding" has been around forever, its definition is even in the dictionary. Big Grin

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Carding - a wire toothed brush for brushing wool etc . From my 1935 F&W



This, I still buy "file cards" to clean my files.


Yep that's it. I have a few in the tool box


-and carding wool, the tool similar to a file card.

card (v.)

"to comb wool," late 14c., from O.Prov. carda, from cardar "to card," from V.L. *caritare, from L. carrere "to clean or comb with a card," from PIE base *kars- "to scrape."


1325–75; Middle English carde < Middle French: literally, teasel head < Late Latin cardus thistle, variant of Latin carduus

http://www.etymonline.com/inde...h=card&searchmode=nl

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/card



 
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Steam the spot for 5-10 minutes in live steam to convert the ferric oxide to ferrocitic oxide(magnatite) or as it is commonly known - rust blue. This will prevent the spot from showing white metal when carded. Then buff or card off the remaining rust with 0000 steel wool. Carding is just the proper old term for wire brushing off rust.
 
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