The Mauser in question is a 7x57(not that it is a bad choice) and I am interested in a big bore.

I know I can make a 416 Taylor on it, but can it be opened up for a 416 Rem. or a 375 H&H?

If so, what kind of work needs to be done and is it worth it?

Yep it can!!! My 375 is being built on a 1909 Argie.

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Originally posted by Riodot:
I know I can make a 416 Taylor on it, but can it be opened up for a 416 Rem. or a 375 H&H?

If so, what kind of work needs to be done and is it worth it?

Yep, all it takes is money. The Taylor will be a bit easier than than a long magnum. Although it's been done a lot, I'd be very careful about whom I trusted to take on the job.

It will cost between $800 (bare bones 416 Taylor with military parts) and $1800 (long magnum with replacement safety, bottom metal, etc). This is for the action work only. You then have to barrel it and stock it.

Only you can say if it's worth it. Personally, I'd say you're better-off starting with a Model 70 for your first custom. The old Mausers (as much as I love them) can be a money pit. If you're going to proceed, think about a 9.3X62. It's a near big bore, and much cheaper to get up and running.

Now, if I've talked you out of your project, I'm interested in purchasing your Peruvian Mauser if its a 1909 version. PM me if you're interested.

If I understand you correct you are asking for a 1909 Peruvian Mauser - this is called an intermediat action lenght which is 5 mm shorter that the DWM 1909 Argentinian. Both are chambered by factory for 7.65x53 Argentinian Mauser. Mostly all civil manufactured 7mm Mauser from Mauser where based on this intermediat action. The outer lenght of the action is the same as the standard ( Military or 1909 Argentine ) one but the bolt is 5 mm shorter and so the stroke as well. The action is set up for cartridges up to 79mm lenght. As a regular standard action which was build for 84 mm cartridge lenght can be open up to facilitate the use of longer cartridges like the .404 Jeffery with is at 89 mm lenght the Peruvian can be open up to use .30-06 lenght cartridges - but I consider this as the most. I do not say that it is impossible to open up for longer cartridges ( as has been done with the standard military action and the .416 Rigby ) but for me that is pushing the envelop to far.
Robert

My .404 is being built on a 1909 arge so they can take a bigger round................practical well thats another story.

Reread the post. The guy has a PERUVIAN not Argentine action. The Peruvian is shorter in the mag opening and the magazine itself. Not the best choice for 3.340" length cartridges and certainly not for the 375 H&H. Can it be done? Likely. Is it cost effective, probably not. Especially when you can get the 1909 ARGENTINE for what the work will likely cost you.

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Originally posted by Robert:
The outer lenght of the action is the same as the standard ( Military or 1909 Argentine ) one but the bolt is 5 mm shorter and so the stroke as well. The action is set up for cartridges up to 79mm lenght. As a regular standard action which was build for 84 mm cartridge lenght can be open up to facilitate the use of longer cartridges like the .404 Jeffery with is at 89 mm lenght the Peruvian can be open up to use .30-06 lenght cartridges - but I consider this as the most.
Robert

Thanks for the feedback gentlemen - If I understand this correctly, a 416 Taylor(standard 30-06 length cartidge I think) would be my best(only?)choice for a big bore on this action. Is that possible without alot of work or $$ ?

Maybe I should keep it as a 7x57 (275 Rigby)?

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Maybe I should keep it as a 7x57 (275 Rigby)?

A very excellent idea. Everybody needs one of these after all.

If you need a cannon, just wait for Remington to unlease their new 798 on the market. Based on the prices Rick posted a couple days ago, I don't think you could build anything for what you buy a factory 798 safari magnum for.

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Originally posted by Riodot:

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Originally posted by Robert:
The outer lenght of the action is the same as the standard ( Military or 1909 Argentine ) one but the bolt is 5 mm shorter and so the stroke as well. The action is set up for cartridges up to 79mm lenght. As a regular standard action which was build for 84 mm cartridge lenght can be open up to facilitate the use of longer cartridges like the .404 Jeffery with is at 89 mm lenght the Peruvian can be open up to use .30-06 lenght cartridges - but I consider this as the most.
Robert

Thanks for the feedback gentlemen - If I understand this correctly, a 416 Taylor(standard 30-06 length cartidge I think) would be my best(only?)choice for a big bore on this action. Is that possible without alot of work or $$ ?

Anyone? Is a 416 taylor doable on this action?

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Originally posted by Riodot:


Anyone? Is a 416 taylor doable on this action?

Is it .30-06 length?

Riodot,
well I would like to use it or keep it in 7mm Mauser. The action can be used to build marveless light rifles but is not the best option for the big bore. Further to the lenght the Peruian Modello 1909 has a small 0.980" diameter thread, but a large outer ring. For safety reasons the thread has to be open up to 1.1" ( regular thread of the standard action like the 1909 Argentinia ) before I dare to put a belted Magnum in it like the .416 Taylor which lives from high pressure.
You will be better served to buy a large ring large thread Mauser standard action like the 1909 Argentinia and keep the Peruian 1909 for a smaller calibre.
Robert

Riodot,
You have a PM.