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How to lighten up a factory Remington 700
29 January 2012, 23:42
ted thornHow to lighten up a factory Remington 700
It's winter here in SEMO and it's the time of the year I work on my rifles.
I like a light rifle and this year I will be working on another Rem 700 ADL project. This year it's a short action though.
What are the ways you guys would shave weight to build a lighter cary rifle....keep cost in mind.
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29 January 2012, 23:51
ramrod340If cost is your issue the simplest way is to buy one of the 12-16oz synthetics. That will by far give you the biggest drop for the buck. Stay with an ADL design and get the plastic trigger guard.
When you start trying to save weight by removing metal the cost goes up and the weight savings goes down.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
30 January 2012, 00:19
kcstottquote:
Originally posted by ramrod340:
If cost is your issue the simplest way is to buy one of the 12-16oz synthetics. That will by far give you the biggest drop for the buck. Stay with an ADL design and get the plastic trigger guard.
When you start trying to save weight by removing metal the cost goes up and the weight savings goes down.
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30 January 2012, 00:19
BobsterYou could bore lightening holes into the butt and mortise the barrel channel. Spiral flute the bolt and skeletonize the bolt handle.
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Originally posted by ted thorn:
It's winter here in SEMO and it's the time of the year I work on my rifles.
I like a light rifle and this year I will be working on another Rem 700 ADL project. This year it's a short action though.
What are the ways you guys would shave weight to build a lighter cary rifle....keep cost in mind.
30 January 2012, 00:30
SR4759Pitch the scope for a receiver sight.
30 January 2012, 00:34
ted thornIt's got to wear a scope....and a synthetic stock is what the action will live in.
Who makes these light stocks?
I will flute the bolt shroud, handle, and mag box will get slotted but without going with a thinner barrel and a TI type stock I know I wont shed many oz's
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30 January 2012, 01:03
ramrod340Brown Precision
http://www.brownprecision.com/...re-finish-stocks.htmAt one time they also sold just the blank don't know now.
I have a couple MPI one the 16-20oz the other the 13-16. Both required some finsh work but I'm happy they make a 9oz as well.
http://www.mpistocks.com/blankpricelist.htmHightechs are around 21-24oz
http://www.hightech-specialties.com/stocks.htmlMcMillian makes a 24os edge.
Lone Wolf make a 15oz I have never used one.
http://www.lonewolfriflestocks.com/stocks/hunting
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
30 January 2012, 05:16
Mike_Dettorre1. Consider aluminum rings and bases
2. Pick up a Brownell's catalog and compare synthetic stock weights. Many are heavier than you think. As I recall the Higue over mold is a pretty good compromise between weight and cost.
3. Weigh you wood stock and consider end milling out the butt stock and cutting out material in the forend...you might get awfully close to the wight of that synthetic
4. Depending on caliber and barrel length consider cutting the barrel back. Most short action cartridges are pretty efficient and a 20 inch bbl may be enough.
5. Check the weight of your scope. Similar magnification scopes can be as much a 4oz heavier between brands. The leupy 2.5x8 is surprising light for its class.
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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
30 January 2012, 19:22
BoxheadNot sure how light you want to go but my 338-06 (a 22" 270 rebore) in a take-off McM KS stock (26 oz IIRC) with a 2.5-8x Leupold in Talley lightweights looks like this. Well balanced but certainly not the lightest.
The Bansner is a fine stock and can be kept pretty light too. Easy to throw over a 1/4# on with just the choice of recoil pad.
01 February 2012, 01:01
Alberta CanuckSounds like an interesting project.
Pardon my evil sense of humour, but a suggestion which will lighten both your rifle and your wallet, especially the latter, is to uncrew and remove the buttplate. Save it and put it away where you can't find it...to reattach later to your lighter rifle...way later.
Then chuck the rest of the rifle parts and buy a NULA.
01 February 2012, 01:44
tiggertateFollowing up on Mike's post, Leupold now has a lightweight line. The 3x9 weighs only 8.8 ounces and the 2.5 fixed weighs 6.5 ounces. I put the 2.5 on my 505 Gibbs and so far so good.
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01 February 2012, 02:00
Tapper2Why is it that everytime someone shows a picture of a gun in their gun room it is a lot better organized than mine. I must be a slob. I clean mine up and within a week some customer has completely distroyed it. Boxhead... nice rifle, properly down......Tom
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01 February 2012, 04:01
tiggertateMaybe that's why there are so few such pictures. You're not alone! That is a very nice rifle.
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01 February 2012, 04:16
jeffeossomodel 7, 243 o4 708 6 1/8" ..
http://www.remington.com/produ...seven-synthetic.aspxsell the adl, buy the model 7, be far ahead in cost
19 March 2012, 09:19
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20 March 2012, 09:00
craigsterNice rifle BUFAF, tell us what it weighs.
20 March 2012, 10:25
BUFAFDon't have a scale that's accurate enough, but it's within a couple ounces of 6 pounds ready to go. Guess I should mention that it's a short action 7/08. Started as a Gander Mountain Mountain Guide. Even the thin little mountain rifle barrel is fluted, albeit lightly.
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20 March 2012, 14:20
Thebear_78My "mountain" rifle is still a work in progress but here is my specs. Remington 700 long action that has been lightened asa much as possible, Talley light weight rings, Leupold compact 3-9 scope, 22" featherweight contoured stainless barrel, fluted, and lone wolf summit Xl stock with aluminum adl bottom metal. I guessing final weight will be 5.5-5.75 scoped.
Here is an ultra light 338 federal that my buddy built, Steve at Alaska Custom Firearms. Lightened remington M7 action with 21" fluted custom contour douglas barrel with leuold compact 3-9 and NECG sights with custom peep built into scope base. Total weight 4 lbs 15.6oz scoped.
20 March 2012, 14:29
Thebear_78I was able to take just over 4oz of weight off of the remington 700 Long action. Considering it was 4+ hours of work on the lathe and mill I'm not sure if its really worth it.
The lone wolf summit XL and the super light MPI stocks are the lightest I have handled with the lone wolf summit XL being slightly lighter. They will offer you a pretty substantial decrease in weight vs some of the other synthetics.
I just need to recontour and flute my barrel and my rifle will be ready for the stock.
23 March 2012, 03:46
N E 450 No2The bear
I like the fact that that rifle still has a magazine floorplate. Makes it much easier to keep the mag box clean and to fix a magazine jam.
For a pretty low cost light weight rifle the original Remington Mod 7's were a pretty good choice, the early ones with the Brown Precision stocks.
In fact I killed a couple of turtles with one in 223 here at my place today...
The Mod 7 Custom Shop guns were even lighter but cost about twice as much.
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24 March 2012, 06:06
lawndartBrown Precision still makes those model 7 stocks.
