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Tigging up some screw holes in Savange 99 receiver
07 August 2018, 20:46
KY NimrodTigging up some screw holes in Savange 99 receiver
I have a Savage 99 with 6 badly done scope mount holes I'd like to get tigged up and have the receiver refinished. Anyone know someone who can do this work and make it look nice?
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08 August 2018, 01:04
RollandYou might get a few more responses if you rephrase the question.
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08 August 2018, 01:11
ted thornI wish you lived closer
My wife's boyfriend TiG welds for a living
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08 August 2018, 03:01
KY Nimrodquote:
Originally posted by Rolland:
You might get a few more responses if you rephrase the question.
Didn't come out the way I wanted it to...fixed it for you...
08 August 2018, 07:06
ted thornPits, voids, craze and sink
TiG welding on finished work should only be done by a skilled welder
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13 August 2018, 01:33
AtkinsonIts best to drive a red hot pin in the holes, then grind them flush then tig them. makes a really clean job..Usually $20 top $30 per hole locally..Depends on if the holes go thru the action, that would require a broach of some sort and cost a lot of money I suspect..I only know one guy that might do that, but it might not be required to function..
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13 August 2018, 05:04
TCLouisTed Thorn
Could one just fill the entire hole with welded material melting the screw threads in as one builds up?
Is the plug merely a filler to cut down on weld time thus saving money?
Any advantages./disadvantages to either method?
Just seems that welded material throughout would be stronger.
Maybe what I do not understand is . . . strong enough is STRONG ENOUGH
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13 August 2018, 05:38
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by TCLouis:
Ted Thorn
Could one just fill the entire hole with welded material melting the screw threads in as one builds up?
Is the plug merely a filler to cut down on weld time thus saving money?
Any advantages./disadvantages to either method?
Just seems that welded material throughout would be stronger.
Maybe what I do not understand is . . . strong enough is STRONG ENOUGH
There is absolutely no reason to plug the hole and then weld.
A TiG guy worth his salt will weld it shut with filler rod and nothing else. Probably less then 50 amps and about sixty seconds per hole.
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15 August 2018, 05:49
CraftsmanIf you do any welding around the holes in the rear you will alter the heat treatment of the locking area of the receiver. Reheat treatment will be required.
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15 August 2018, 07:29
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by Craftsman:
If you do any welding around the holes in the rear you will alter the heat treatment of the locking area of the receiver. Reheat treatment will be required.
Not always true
With our Plasma pulse TiG I can weld with nearly no heat transfer at all
It welds so cool you can lay your hand on the parent metal and never feel a temp change
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quote:
Originally posted by Craftsman:
If you do any welding around the holes in the rear you will alter the heat treatment of the locking area of the receiver. Reheat treatment will be required.
Unless you are really, really, bad about heat control, it is darn near impossible to weld on the rear bridge and soften the front locking lugs. And if you can't control the heat well enough, you have no business welding on receivers.
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15 August 2018, 12:33
eagle27quote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by TCLouis:
Ted Thorn
Could one just fill the entire hole with welded material melting the screw threads in as one builds up?
Is the plug merely a filler to cut down on weld time thus saving money?
Any advantages./disadvantages to either method?
Just seems that welded material throughout would be stronger.
Maybe what I do not understand is . . . strong enough is STRONG ENOUGH
There is absolutely no reason to plug the hole and then weld.
A TiG guy worth his salt will weld it shut with filler rod and nothing else. Probably less then 50 amps and about sixty seconds per hole.
How much heat is involved in 60 seconds welding, a minute each hole, a lot of welding for a small hole? Or was that six seconds per hole?
15 August 2018, 15:42
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by eagle27:
quote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by TCLouis:
Ted Thorn
Could one just fill the entire hole with welded material melting the screw threads in as one builds up?
Is the plug merely a filler to cut down on weld time thus saving money?
Any advantages./disadvantages to either method?
Just seems that welded material throughout would be stronger.
Maybe what I do not understand is . . . strong enough is STRONG ENOUGH
There is absolutely no reason to plug the hole and then weld.
A TiG guy worth his salt will weld it shut with filler rod and nothing else. Probably less then 50 amps and about sixty seconds per hole.
How much heat is involved in 60 seconds welding, a minute each hole, a lot of welding for a small hole? Or was that six seconds per hole?
If I were welding it....almost no heat would transfer past the bead and the bead could be touched with your bare hand as fast as you could set the TiG torch down.....and yes.....one minute per hole approx.
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15 August 2018, 19:46
lee440Since the OP asked about a Savage 99, the bolt locks at the rear and care would have to be taken with heat control. Considering the size and amount of welding to fill a screw hole, not an issue for a good welder. If it were just one or two holes, you could degrease the threads, red loctite a base screw in, cut it off a thread or two proud with a Dremel cut off wheel and use a steel punch and hammer to peen it in place. With careful dressing down, it can be hard to detect. With 6, I'd find a good welder!
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