Good deal on a titanium mauser if you have $3k.


http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976740780.htm

Nice! Wish I had the extra cash right now

Terry

Thanks for the link....that's a beautiful action..... but $3,000 for an action is beyond me.

Wasn't TIman the maker of these?

I was one of the machinist/gunmakers for Taconic hired in July of '97. Don Schnieder of Cambridge New York was the original founder of Taconic Fierarms LLC. Don opted to end the rifle program in Feb. of '98. Don offered for purchase to me the remainder of the actions, prints and fixtures in June of 2000. I bought 30 of the titanium actions and 10 of the same actions in 4140 chromoly steel. I've been working these out into rifles for the past six years, through a word of mounth advertising.
When I bought the inventory from Don I did not buy the Taconic trade name. Currently these rifles are built on my FFL under Satterlee Arms.
WWW.satterleearms.com
Yes these are very rare, the action that is online for sale makes brings the total number of available actions for sale to 16, I hold the other 15 actions. They are intermediate length actions perfect for the 7x57 but too short for the 06 and 270 class of cartridges, however I did modify one to accept 270 wheatherby for a man that absoultely had to have it in 270 wheatherby. 6.5 x 284 has been a popular choice for many buyers. I did two in 300 wsm and an currently working one out to 6.5 wsm I remachine the box and underails and bolt face for these wsms, capacity is cut to 2 in the box. For all calibers I set up the extractor so the rifle can be single round chamber loaded. So a 7x57 is a total of 5 in the rifle, a 284 is a total of 4 in the rifle and a wsm is a total of 3 in the rifle, the 270 wheatherby i did held a total of 4 rounds. About the parts themselves.
The receiver, bolt,bolt shround safety,fireing pin, bolt stop, one piece bottom metal with stradle floorplate are all cnc machined from heat treated 6al4v titanium RC 32, 168,000 psi tensile strength. Fully Mauser in every way with none of the little details left out.
That action is a steal at $3000.00
Titanium 7x57
Timan
Stuart Satterlee

That thing is exquisite Timan. Did you make the stock as well?

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That action is a steal at $3000.00

Perhaps compared to other titanium Mauser actions. (but there are no others you say?... that's my point!)

You can't really say a one of a kind item is a bargain when there is nothing else to compare it to. It's only a bargain if you REALLY want a titanium Mauser.

What does the weight savings work out to in dollars per ounce?

By the way, that is an absolutely beautiful rifle, so please don't take my comments above the wrong way! I'm just too practical and thrifty for my own good sometimes...

Monte

You must not have read Timan's post. He said it was a steal at $3000 becasue he is comparing it to the other 15 he has for sale, which I believe cost either $6000 or $6500. So definitely it is a steal at $3000!!!!!!

I realized that he had others, I meant that there are no competing manufacturers out there.

I wouldn't pay $6000 either!

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Originally posted by montea6b:
I realized that he had others, I meant that there are no competing manufacturers out there.

I wouldn't pay $6000 either!

Well, if you would't pay $6000 then you better hurry up and buy the one thats for sale for $3000.

Yes, I made the stock. That rifle is one I built as spec. It's a 7x57, I kind of adopted it as a personal gun. I never really persued a buyer for it so it's just been hanging around the shop waiting for somebody to checker it. It gets played with at breaktime and goes to the range for fun with bullets and powder combos. I caused the demise of a coyote with it on my way home from work one day, just happened to have it handy 140gr accubond on top of 52grains of imr 4350, at 75 yds made a bit of mess of him and ended his constant worry of life and death.
After carrying it 23 days deer hunting I got tired of deer shopping and drilled a whitetail in the heart with it, agian the 140 gr accubond ended the hunt or shopping trip, however you want to look at it. I passed so many big bucks that I should have been looked at by a shrink for doing it, I've shot some big ones and never did get around to eating the horns, so whatever.
It's just to get out of the shop and pick up a rifle and go walk the trails and see what happens.
Timan

Timan

Those bucks around Deadwood must really be cagey because I have been on trips out there in the late summer and fall driving around on that western side of Deadwood where I have seen as many as 50-75 deer in a field and not a one of them was a buck!!! Either that or you have the bucks tied up somewhere.

That buck should have felt honored to be taken by such a beautiful rifle!!

Nice rifle Stu!

I must say the $3000 price on that action is pretty low. I worked with Stu at Taconic and I had to trade two stock blanks that I could have easily have sold for more than $1500 each for my action. I wonder what happened to the front tang on the floormetal that's for sale at $3k. Never seen any squared off like that. Oh well someone could take the time wearing out a few dozen files and round it off.

Mine's still just rough machined parts and requires many hours of proper fitting to assemble it. Even with using hundereds of thousands of dollars in new CNC machines, you just can't spit out a pile of real 98 parts, put them in a bag, shake them up and have a finished 98. The only parts in the picture that aren't titanium are the safety lever and cocking piece.

gunmaker

Get that puppy assembled and build a rifle on it. Then we can go and bag some critters with our Ti rifles.
Stu

There are a lot of bucks around here. The real big ones go nocturnal, they are in the 6 plus year class and are more into survival than breeding and do their moving and breeding at night when they feel safest.
Timan

What is the difference in weight between a Ti action and standard?

I am the proud new owner of this action. Any suggestions what should I build on it? Apparently it will accept an OAL cartridge length of just over 3.0". I want to reduce my big game battery to two rifles: a light, short carry rifle for high country mule deer and the occassional elk and a second rifle for Alaskan bear. The Taconic will fill the bill in the light category. 7-08 would be a great round. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,


Jordan

Congrats on your purchase. How much does it weigh?

Bulldog:

I don't know how much it weighs. Neither does the seller. If the bolt and action are titanium, then
I wonder if it will be as light as a New UltraLight Arms Model 20? They run about 20 ounces without trigger or bolt I think. I will be very interested to get it on a postal scale. I hope there are no issues with the titanium bolt binding or galling in the titanium action.


Jordan

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Originally posted by Jordan:
I am the proud new owner of this action. Any suggestions what should I build on it? Apparently it will accept an OAL cartridge length of just over 3.0". I want to reduce my big game battery to two rifles: a light, short carry rifle for high country mule deer and the occassional elk and a second rifle for Alaskan bear. The Taconic will fill the bill in the light category. 7-08 would be a great round. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,


Jordan

Jordan, you did good.

I personally would do a 7X57 with a long throated 22" ultra-lite barrel, but 7-08 would be good too.

Terry

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Originally posted by TC1:

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Originally posted by Jordan:
I am the proud new owner of this action. Any suggestions what should I build on it? Apparently it will accept an OAL cartridge length of just over 3.0". I want to reduce my big game battery to two rifles: a light, short carry rifle for high country mule deer and the occassional elk and a second rifle for Alaskan bear. The Taconic will fill the bill in the light category. 7-08 would be a great round. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,


Jordan

Jordan, you did good.

I personally would do a 7X57 with a long throated 22" ultra-lite barrel, but 7-08 would be good too.

Terry

I think that would be my choice too.

Jordan
congratulations How about a 6,5X57 or a 7X57. I would pick a light 24 inch barrel.

Cheers
/JOHAN

Congrats to you sir on a very good buy. If you need and further assistance with anything on your new action or the construction of your new rifle feel free to contact me, pm, website www.satterleearms.com
Again congrats on a great buy, the last action I sold was $6,500.00 you did well.
Timan

Stuart:

Thank you very much for your kind offer. I may indeed require your assistance in a few months---after I have decided what to build. I visited your web site. Your product is flat out gorgeous. Glad to know there is someone with tooling and familiarity with my action if needed.

Is there any concern with titanium bolts binding on the bolt bore race way of a titanium action? Do you know if the bolt on mine is in fact titanium? Finally, any idea what the weight of my action is?


Thanks,


Jordan

My would I love to have heaps of folding gear

I've learned some tuning techniques since 97 and 98 which is when your action probably made, We sent a couple of those to the Norsman. I don't remember the one with the square tange in front on the bottom metal. I can whip a cnc move on that easy enough if you wish. Other than that I'd say the bolt is titanium usless the somebody put a steel one in it. we didn't make any steel bolts at taconic although a steel military one from a mex 98 will fit. 7x57 8x57 6.5x55 and 6.5x57 are the best for that action 375 steyer would be cool too, 6mm Rem and 257 roberts also come from the 7x57 case which makes for good candidates as well. 243 and 308 are really too short for that action but they will work thru it, 284 cases cut the magazine capacity to 3 rounds reliably, Yes they are handsome cases, but critters can't tell what case launched the bullet that is killing them. It's tough to go wrong with a 7x57. A 24 inch barrel and good handload will basically make it a 280 Rem. The deer and Elk seem to all agree that it is about the same as a 280, however their only way of telling us this is to simply quit working, after a good hit.
Timan
Timan

1 lb 8oz action weight.
Timan

TiMan:


Thanks for the offer on rounding that floor plate front tang. When I saw that, I thought maybe someone inadvertently skipped a machining operation! But on reflection, that is highly unlikely. Taconic must have manufactured it that way intentionally. Once I get the action in hand, I will contact you about sending the floor plate for modification.

The various caliber choices are intriguing. An Ackley Improved 6x55 is appealing. For some reason the 7 x 57 has never grabbed me, yet I concede it is probably the best all-around choice for an intermediate length action. I must give some serious thought to the ballistic advantages and disadvantages of the various choices. I definitely do not want to exceed a 22" barrel length.


Jordan

Geez...That's a full POUND lighter than a Rem 700! Congratulations, and take good care of my dream rifle for me, OK?

Jordan,

For a 6,5X55 I would not go for a barrel shorter than 24 inch. In my opinion ackley "improved" is lots of work for little gain. Also keep in mind that Lapua, Norma and RWS brass got a slightly larger case head than remington.

Norma MRP or RL-22 would do well in 6,5X55 or 6,5X57.

With 22 inch barrel as maximum 8X57 IS would be my choice.

Cheers
/JOHAN