Gents:

I am sending my CZ to AHR this week for their magic. However, I have read various posts regarding GunKote which they use on metal and am wondering if some of you can offer a comparison/contrast between that and say, rust bluing.

I have read that GK scratches easily and can chip on corners. Please bear in mind this will be my general use rifle so it is likely to see a variety of weather conditions.

Thanks!

I have never used GunKote.

I have used a coule of "Tefloned" rifles in real wet weather.

However they were never subjected to a lot of rough handling.

You might consider rust blue, then paint the metal with Krylon paint.

When it needs it touch up the paint.

When it looks really grody, strip and repaint.

I have used painted guns for many years.

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
Gents:

I am sending my CZ to AHR this week for their magic. However, I have read various posts regarding GunKote which they use on metal and am wondering if some of you can offer a comparison/contrast between that and say, rust bluing.

I have read that GK scratches easily and can chip on corners. Please bear in mind this will be my general use rifle so it is likely to see a variety of weather conditions.

Thanks!

Gunkote when properly applied works fantastic!!

You might also look into Duracoat, it's also very durable and you can do it yourself without baking.

Lou

There's no protection like www.robarguns.com
AK

Just like painting your house, the key is preparation.

Parts need to be phosphated (Parkerized) first to ensure good adhesion; bores need to be protected from that. Baking following painting helps speed the curing process.

All in all it's just paint but bluing is just rust. Take your pick.

Rust

I have 4 rifles done in satin black gunkote
by Mac's Shootin Iron Restorations, and a 5th
at his shop right now.

The stuff as done by Mac's is fantastic!!!!

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All in all it's just paint but bluing is just rust. Take your pick.

I like my RUST over paint anyday!

Friends-

I have heard of a process called QPQ (I think????). I have heard it's great but, I have not seen the end product in person or in photographs.

Would anyone care to comment or post a picture???

This is a SAKO with QPQ. Tip Burns handled it for me.






The Talley adapters are original finish and the QPQ matches well. It looks a lot like matte blue.

QPQ is not a coating or plating process. It is a molten salt bath that converts the top layers of steel into black woodpecker lips. It is used in most auto service pistols now because of its low friction coefficient, hardness and corrosion resistance.

Its primary uses are industrial applications where heat and corrosion resistance are favored. One common use is the internals of valves used in rough service conditions. It is pretty much "rust proof" in general sporting use.

Melonite QPQ is a case hardening or a type of nitriding. It is very good, but needs to be done by a company like Heff that does it without getting it hot enough to anneal the metal.
Butch

There are only a few processors that do firearms because of the liabilities and FFL issues.

tiggertate-

Thank you so much for the pictures. That was very helpful.