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anybody work with/shoot a charles daly mauser?
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they are coming back into the country now. wholesale is $306 for a normal sporting centerfire chambering, wood stock.

wholesale for a cz550 in 9.3x62 is $389, $406 in other .473 headsize chamberings.

how does the daly compare with the cz? is there $100 difference? thanks.
 
Posts: 298 | Location: birmingham, alabama | Registered: 28 January 2003Reply With Quote
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The Charles Daly is the old Interarms Mark X Mauser made by Zastava.

Are you sure that they are currently being imported? The last word I had, the trade status of the new Slovenia and Whatever Republic was not settled and Daly could not import them without tariffs that made their prices uncompetitive, so the import was being delayed. If this has changed, I'd like to know because I covet one of the Mini Mark X's in 7.62 x 39mm.

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Posts: 13309 | Location: Henly, TX, USA | Registered: 04 April 2001Reply With Quote
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From a gunsmithing aspect, you are comparing apples and oranges.

The Charles Daly is a mauser 98 pattern and will except aftermarket parts designed for such.

The CZ550 is a different design, with limited aftermarket parts yet available.

Either one can be turned into a top shelf rifle. Just make sure that your plans are compatible with the rifle.
 
Posts: 2036 | Location: Roebling, NJ 08554 | Registered: 20 January 2002Reply With Quote
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the charles dalies are in the current banger's wholesale catalogue in birmingham, and in stock.

i understand, kurt, that the cz and daly are different in many ways but the basics are paul mauser.

i suppose my key question is this: degree of polish, grade of bluing and quality of walnut aside, is there $100 worth of difference in their shooting/accuracy capabilities?

i personally would not care for a double-set trigger as standard on the cz, and the factory forged scope "bases" cut out lots of ring options, correct?

what i really like about the daly zastava is the huge variety of standard mauser 98 stocks, triggers, scope bases and countless other items being available.

i would not, however, want to buy a daly rifle, find out it won't shoot worth beans, then be stuck with a $300 action i've got to turn around and re-barrel.

thanks for the advice so far, guys. my gunsmith/ffl/shop guy thinks the zastavas would be just fine working rifles as long as they are still as good as the interarms arms mark X iterations.
 
Posts: 298 | Location: birmingham, alabama | Registered: 28 January 2003Reply With Quote
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I don't know if you are dead set on a mauser, but what if one was to go buy a used or new 30-06 or .270 remington model 700 if you look carefully you could find one for under 300$ even new. and rebarrel to whatever caliber of your likeing sell off the take off barrel or whatever parts you don't need from the donor rifle to fund your new project.
 
Posts: 1755 | Location: slc Ut | Registered: 22 December 2002Reply With Quote
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cowboy: got a 700 adl. supposed to be sold. if it ain't, i may well re-barrel it, although it is a fine shooter in .270. i just like the feel of as mauser. still mentally shopping.
 
Posts: 298 | Location: birmingham, alabama | Registered: 28 January 2003Reply With Quote
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i personally would not care for a double-set trigger as standard on the cz, and the factory forged scope "bases" cut out lots of ring options, correct?

Fish, just a small correction, if I may. CZs come with a single set trigger. That is a totaly different design than a double set trigger. First, a double set trigger has TWO triggers. One of them just sets the lower weight on its neighbor. A single set design has ONE trigger. You pull back on it to fire the rifle in single stage mode (just like all rifles we Americans are used to) or push it forward to set it to its light pull setting, then pull back to fire the rifle.

The single set trigger gives you options without looking weird.

You are correct in that CZ's scope base dovetail limits your ring selectin somewhat, but so it is with Ruger, Sako, and Tikka. In any case, your choices in scope mounting systems for CZs are not all bad: CZ's own mounts, Talley, and Warne.

HTH.
 
Posts: 2206 | Location: USA | Registered: 31 August 2002Reply With Quote
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I have talked directly to the company several times about the new guns, and unless things have changed in the last couple of weeks, they are not being imported. As noted, it has to do with the trade status of the former Czech republic. Import tariffs are currently something like 50% on their goods.

I was told by their service manager that they imported a total of 300 rifles and actions about a year ago. These went primarily to Jerry's and Brownells. There were few actions and these have been gone for quite a while. I suspect there are a few rifles left in the chain somewhere. I just saw a current issue of a gun mag on the rack that has a feature article on the rifle. Whether this is an indication they may start coming in again or was just out of date due to lead time I don't know.

My interest is in the actions, as they are offering one which is unique. It is the Mini action but with a .473 bolt face. They call it a 22-250 action, but strangely, their 22-250 barreled actions and rifles are on the standard size action. I think it would be ideal for a really small, light PPC.

I was told that the actions are absolutely identical to the Interarms. That would mean that the full size are 98's and the Mini is a near duplicate of the L461, except for the extractor. I will say that the CZ is much different, particularly in the 527. I own Mini's, L461's and a 527, and the CZ is a totally different gun. The biggest limit on the 527 is the single stack magazine. The clip will not accept any larger cartridge than the PPC, so that you can't rebarrel to BR cartridges.

As to quality, I haven't seen a lot of CZ's but the 527 I purchased is much nicer than most of them I have seen. The wood on this one is incredible. Its only problems are a rathter mediocre finish on the wood and that awful clip and triggerguard. I am planning, when I get a chance, to recontour the trigger guard, cut the clip down flush with the floorplate and oil finish the stock. It should be a very attractive gun then.
 
Posts: 1238 | Location: Lexington, Kentucky, USA | Registered: 04 February 2003Reply With Quote
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my bad on the trigger description. i knew that as well as i know how to buttons on my shirt. sorry. but many thanks for the description anyway.
 
Posts: 298 | Location: birmingham, alabama | Registered: 28 January 2003Reply With Quote
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The April 2003 issue of Gun World has a detailed article on this rifle - I got my copy yesterday and they seem to like it. Please check it out.

Good shooting!
 
Posts: 2717 | Location: Houston, TX | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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As noted, it has to do with the trade status of the former Czech republic. Import tariffs are currently something like 50% on their goods.

Correction, the trade restrictions are on the former YUGOSLAVIA, where the Zastava rifles are made for Charles Daly. CZ is in the Czech Republic, and they have no trouble at all importing any rifles.
 
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You're right, of course. Suffering from typing dyslexia.
 
Posts: 1238 | Location: Lexington, Kentucky, USA | Registered: 04 February 2003Reply With Quote
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Give a shout when the STAINLESS Chas Daly actions become available, please? I've been waiting for some time, and have gone on to a different rifle project in the mean time. I read the artical mentioned above, and it appears as theough the Daly actions can now be imported. ~~~Suluuq
 
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