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what company makes the best match grade rifle barrels


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Barrett "Boots" Obermeyer.....Kreiger.....CutRifle....etc.....
 
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I vote for Krieger! Love mine!
 
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There is no "best" barrel. A lot of guys make equally good barrels. Buy something from the top tier makers and one is as good as the others. Go with Kreiger, Lilja, Hart, Shilen, Obermeyer, Rock, etc, etc and you will not go wrong.
 
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thankyou very much for the information


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Barrett "Boots" Obermeyer.....Kreiger.....CutRifle....etc.....



The ones to avoid are those who's names end in "ett", like Adams and Benn"ett", E.R. Shaw"ett" etc. Big Grin

Although in all honesty, those particular two manufacturer's make the best target barrels of them all. I usually plant them muzzle down at 100 yards and aim for the threads. Big Grin


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There is no "best" barrel. A lot of guys make equally good barrels. Buy something from the top tier makers and one is as good as the others. Go with Kreiger, Lilja, Hart, Shilen, Obermeyer, Rock, etc, etc and you will not go wrong.


Right on! thumb
When you get to the high level of barrels mentioned, all are capable of delivering one hole accuracy.
If you check out the centerfire benchrest shooting results, you'll see all of those guys mentioned in the top 20 shooters at each match.
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Best Heavy Gun 10 shot group last weekend at the NBRSA 600 Yard Nationals was shot by a Bartlein with a no-turn 6x47L chambering.

This was with a not-so-heavy gun with a .960 muzzle.

I'd say Bartlein, except that their wait-time is now 4-6 months.

Think that's a reflection of their accuracy?

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There are many really good manufactures, but not all manufactures will replace a barrel if the gun wont shoot.I know Kreiger and Shilen will no questions asked. And I have had others tell me they don't make barrels that won't shoot and will not replace them. Some thing to think about.
 
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Another thing...Hart only makes stainless barrels. Period.
 
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Another thing...Hart only makes stainless barrels. Period.


Good point.
I bought my first Hart barrel in 1968 and it shot extremely well, so I continue buying them. I was living in PA at the time, probably not far from you. However, I only use their barrels for target rifles. I want sporters to be blued; just a personal thing as I have nothing against guys who like SS sporters.
So, for sporters I mainly use Douglas barrels, but for the last two rifles the gunsmith wanted to use Shilen CM barrels, and I didn't object.
All the CM barreled sporters shoot well too. I see no difference in accuracy between Douglas and Shilen CM barrels.
Another thing, and that is the gunsmith doing the chambering and fitting is an important ingredient into whether or not a rifle shoots well. So, I would have trouble pinning any roses on barrel makers initially, if a particular rifle didn't shoot well. I'd have to do some investigating to find the cause of any inaccuracy.

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Yet another Opinion , Lilja !: http://www.riflebarrels.com/about/default.htm

Proof is in the target paper . Also an excellent choice is an Obermeyer barrel

Then I would have to say the Premier Barrel would be a Gary barrel and I hope to find out this year

as I don't own one as of yet !. Gary Schneider's reputation proceeds him in the " Real World " of

high precision shooting !!!!. archer archer archer

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Cut Rifled:

1. Obermayer
2. Chanlynn
3. Bartlein
4. Rock
5. Krieger

Buttoned:
1. Lilja
2. Benchmark
3. Hart
4. Shilen
 
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There is no "best" barrel. A lot of guys make equally good barrels. Buy something from the top tier makers and one is as good as the others. Go with Kreiger, Lilja, Hart, Shilen, Obermeyer, Rock, etc, etc and you will not go wrong.


And there are no flies on a Douglas Premium Grade barrel, either!


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Barrett "Boots" Obermeyer.....Kreiger.....CutRifle....etc.....



The ones to avoid are those who's names end in "ett", like Adams and Benn"ett", E.R. Shaw"ett" etc. Big Grin

Although in all honesty, those particular two manufacturer's make the best target barrels of them all. I usually plant them muzzle down at 100 yards and aim for the threads. Big Grin


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Having now wiped the coffee from my keyboard I'd like to ask if Pacnor is spelt Pacnor"ette". Reason I ask is my smith uses them and to get something else will increase the hassle factor a lot.
 
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When I read of 1" 5 shot groups at 100 yards in 1995 on usenet group rec.guns, before the world wide web had forums, I started on an accuracy quest.
My accuracy quest took a long time.

Accuracy can be considered at multiple levels:
a) deer hunting at close range..~6.0 moa required
b) deer hunting at long range ..~2.0 moa required
c) varmint hunting at long range ... ~1.0 moa required
d) benchrest competition with no wind .. ~0.1 moa required

The internet is full benchrest information, and I was trying to get to varmint level accuracy.
I wasted allot of time, money, and enthusiasm trying benchrest tricks in hand loading and gunsmithing that had no effect at my level.

What someone says about the best barrel for a 12 pound rifle with 20" barrel shooting a 70 gr bullet in competition, is not necessarily what is best for an 8 pound rifle with 26" barrel shooting a 180 gr bullet for big game hunting.

I can tell which of my barrels were lapped at the factory; Krieger, Lilja, Hart, Shilen, Parker Hale, Pac-Nor, and Lothar Walther.
I can tell by putting a Nite Ize 20" fiber optic up the breech and looking in the muzzle with a magnifying glass.
The Douglas barrels do not look lapped, but seem to shoot very well.

Skinny barrels are not offered in stainless, probably for a reason. The hunting rifle has a serious trade off between weight and accuracy. If I am going to carry it all day, maybe it should be Chrome Moly.

Today I am buying myself two barrels:
1) Lothar Walther Chrome Moly [#3 contour =3 pounds] $185 for building a 7mmMag elk rifle on 98 Mauser action
2) Shilen Select Match Stainless [#7 contour = 6 pounds] $265 for building a 6mmBR rodent rifle on Rem700

What does it all mean?
Any factory stress relieved and factory lapped bull barrel can shoot better than I can.
Once I understand what I need in a barrel and which barrels meet those needs, then I can shop for price.
 
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My experience is similar to tnekkcc's , though I did shoot bench for a number of years with " only the best" barrels of " well respected names"
I have found in building rifles for a hobby that almost all modern barrels shoot very well.
That includes the MUCH Maligned Adams and Bennet's and Shaw's.
Rarely anymore do you get a bad barrel, the installation is more often to blame such as not
squaring (trueing) the receiver, barrel and bolt face.


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