Not sure if this has been posted. I appologise if it is old news.

http://bit.ly/cuv80A

Yes, that link has been psoted sumerous times on AR and I think at leats twice already in the gunsmithing forum.

the question of the hour is what do you think about the issue with thw Remington Walker Trigger (RWT) fire controil system?

How mucj hjave you followed the issue on AR? Many posts have been made by folks on each side of the issue, as well as the lower number of fence sitters who are still trying to figure outr what they believe to be true.

The last time I looked at that page (over a week ago) Remington had yet to make a single engineering, design, manufacturing, or QA/QC point about the RWT versus other fire control systems. They showed almost exclusively Remoington employees and contractors saying how great Remington is and how safe the trigger unit is. I found it interesting that the Remington employees never talked about Remington saying under oath that they experience the exact same failures (FSR, FBO, FBC) on brand new rifles they pull off the line. These triggers are adjusted by Remington employees to Remington's specs, and since the rifles are brand new there is no way that "poor maintenance" could have occured.

Actually, here is a the last post in a thread in the medium bores forum on the RWT issue. Remington's loudest supporter on AR is a guy named Hot Core. Notice I only know his screen name, as he refuses to give his real name and location, despite making personal attacks on other men. At any rate, he is still posting up a storm on AR since I first asked him this series of questions, yet he has of yet not even aknowledged the post. Here is the last post in the thread:


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Originally posted by Marc_Stokeld:
Warrior-
The design defect is in the trigger mechanism, not the safety. The Remington Walker Trigger (RWT) has a unique design in that it has the additional component called the “connector.” This is why Remington has repeatedly been sued over AD’s with RWT equipped rifles and the Remington guns containing conventional trigger designs have only a fraction of the complaints about improper trigger operation. The safety is often part of many of the AD’s, but the actual problem is the trigger.

Hot Core-
I am confused about a few things and am hoping you can clarify them for me.
“I have no desire to argue with you” can be read as me having challenged you to an argument. I in no way meant that to come across as me wanting to argue or fight with you, or anyone else for that matter. If that is the way folks are reading it then I sincerely apologize for not being clearer in my original post. I simply asked some basic questions with no ulterior motive. Again, please forgive me if it came across as me trying to fight or argue in any way.

I really was serious am genuinely interested in what you have to say on the various points. You have always been one of the very first responders when someone makes a point/argument saying something derogatory about the RWT and you confidently state your belief that your view of each point is correct. I am genuinely interested in your views. I know many AR members in person and most, if not all, have heard me say that I am most definitely NOT a smart man. I like to listen to all sides of issues. Your passionate defenses of the RWT design lead me to believe that you have a fair amount of experience related to all or at least some of the topics related to gun design/engineering/Remington/triggers, etc. In my previous post I was only trying to learn the basis for your compassionate conviction of the merits of the RWT. I swear to God I am just interested in this, with no devious or deceitful intentions.

So to try again:
1. What are your educational and professional credentials?
2. Have you ever, do you currently, will you in the future, or do you at least to hope to in the future earn money from Remington or in some manner related to the RWT issue?
3. What are your explanations for the FBO’s, FBC’s, and FSR’s on rifles equipped with the RWT?
4. What is your explanation for the fact that the people who claim the RWT design was responsible for their FBO’s, FBC’s, and FSR’s do not have these unintentional discharges when they use their other firearms that do not contain the unique RWT, but rather use a conventional trigger design?
5. What is your opinion of the fact that Remington has testified under oath that they have experienced FBO’s, FBC’s, and FSR’s from the time the prototype rifles were built through to the latest rifles with the uniquely designed RWT’s off the assembly line, but have as of yet to testify that these AD’s occur with their other guns that have conventional trigger designs?
6. What is your opinion of the scores (in the hundreds now?) of millions of dollars Remington has paid out in suits related to AD’s in rifles with the RWT?
7. Are you willing to tell us your name and where you live?
The last question may seem strange and indeed is the least important one on the list. I only ask it because you call out people by name and at times go after them fairly hard on a personal level. The latest instance comparing Belk to “pelosi/boxer/schumer/brady.” To me it only seems fair that if a man is making derogatory comments about another man then he should be enough of a gentleman to give his name, as well as his city and state of residence. It is the internet equivalent of looking a man in the eyeballs when you say something bad about him. I know I am from a family who beat into us the manners and values of the Deep South and not everyone feels this way. This is especially true with the Gen Y’ers and Millennials. And with those two generations I am not saying it is wrong, only that it is different than what I was brought up to do. With you keeping your identity secret I have no idea even how old you are or where you grew up.

So that is it in a nutshell - just black and white questions with no shades of grey secret or underhanded intentions. And again, I sincerely apologize if I wrote my last post in a manner that caused you to believe I was trying to argue or start a fight or pissing match. I just want to know why the RWT’s most passionate defender on AR has formed his conclusions about the design of the RWT, the gun owners who had the AD’s, and Remington’s response to the issue. I will swear on a Bible that I am just asking you to help me understand why you have formed your opinion “I know you are wrong, so that is all that matters to me.”



Hot Core-

You have told me that I am wrong and am still asking you to help me understand what I am not told me what parts of statemetns I ahve said are incorrect. I truly am trying to look at this issue from every angle. I see you have made numerous psots on AR since you told me that I am wrong and you are right and that is all that matters to you. Please reply to my questions above.

Please trust me when I say I would love to be wrong in this issue. My first centerfire rifle was a M700 in 1982. I looked at many calibers of M700's and other brands of rifles as well. But I kept coming back to the M700. This was huge decision for me at the time. y the time I was in high school i knew who Mr. Walker was and knew of his innovations in the firearms field. At one point my dream job would be to work for Remington after getting out of engineering school.

I am asking anyone who posts in reply to this post to please just stick to facts, data, credentials, etc. related to the alledged issue with the RWT. I am on my knees, begging everyone to not make personal attacks or blanket derogatroy statements. Please be professional and polite with your posts.

This issue is huge and has the potential to cripple the gun industry, bankrupt companies, cause the loss of thousands of jobs, give ammunition to the anti-gunners, and turn many of the "gun neutral" people into anti-gunners. If there really is an issue with the RWT design, and if it was known to be defective by Remington, then it will at least indirectly affect every gun owner in the US. I will be brutally honest and tell everyone that I am scared. If Remington knew/knows there is/was a problem and did not fix it, I can easily see the Supreme Court making a ruling that would open the Second Ammendment to all sorts of attacks for the anti-gunners. I would love nothing more that for my beliefs about the RWT to be wrong.

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So 375LVR, if you believe what the Remiongton employees say, i would love to hear your answeres to the above questions. Please beleive me when i say I am asking this as professionally and politely as possible and ask that you, and all other posters, do the same.

I personally find it incredibly interesting that Remington makes videos stating "ffacts" that contradict what Remington has said in legally binding situations.

If you are new to the issue, I encorouge you to search for the posts on the RWT's here on AR