I have an Interarms Mk. X in .458 Win Mag (factory barrelled) that has split it's laminate stock. I am planning to drop it into a strong synthetic, as this is a hard-use hunting rifle.

Looking at the different brands like B&C, High-Tech, Hogue and McMillan, etc; I would like your opinions of which stock would be best for this rifle.....ie, which fits best with little inletting needed? Should I go fibreglass or alloy bedding block? Any other advice?

Thanks in advance...

blacks

I've never cared for the B&C. I have several High-Tech but only on 7mm and smaller. They seem a little light for a 458. I dropped my 400PDK into a Hogue. It is equivalent to a 404 and it has held up fine. It is the simple pillar bedding. For $100 can't go too wrong

I have a Browning Safari LE, '64 vintage in .458 and a Weibe dropbox mag for it. I am going to have Martini's put it into a Lone Wolf stock specifically designed for this type of rifle and reports from the stock installers I use on these are uniformly excellent....maybe check them out.

If, I were to retain the 3+1 configuration, I would go with a Micky standard fill or magnum fill bedded with Devcon putty in the pattern for your rifle shown on their site.

It depends on what you want to spend but the Butler Creek stocks work well even with the 458. Run a cross bolt thru behind the lug and bed it with Devcon, Marine-tex or Accra-glass and it will hold up fine.

If you want one you can beat the living crap out of and not feel too bad doing it look at a Ramline. They are cheap and they hold up to the beating. A friend of mine has one on his 450 Ackley mag. It's been to Africa, Alaska and hunted hard in the Book Cliffs of Eastern Utah and Colorado, and 20 something years later it still looks like shit but is otherwise holding up great!

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Originally posted by 458Win:
It depends on what you want to spend but the Butler Creek stocks work well even with the 458.

I have a Butler Creek stock on my .270 Mark X (Zastava). It is a perfect fit for me. The stock also has minimal drop at the comb & heel, so it should minimise felt recoil.

Not only are the Butler Creek stocks suitable, CDNN has them for $39 US right now, plus $9.99 shipping. You may have to open the floorplate opening to accomodate the longer magazine box but that will be the case for most drop-ins made for the MK X/Zastava. If you want to spend the money, McMillian usually has a few on the shelf ready to go.

CDNN

I put my buddies 458 interarms in a B&C with the aluminum bedding block. Talk about a stout stock. It has aluminum running fore to aft and once I bedd it I can't see how it could be possible to break it.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
Not only are the Butler Creek stocks suitable, CDNN has them for $39 US right now,

Thanks for this info. I just emailed them to ask if they would be able to ship to South Africa. I hope that they can!

I need one for my next project!

Thanks for the comments guys, I should have stressed the 'high strength' part, this rifle has already killed a Ramline and a Richard's Laminate that was dual crossbolted and devcon bedded. Hence why I was thinking along the lines of the B&C with the alloy block.

PTaylor - how did that stock fit mate? Much work needed?

Interesting that a few mention the Butler Creek. Would these injection molded stocks really stand up to a .458??

Also, sounds like the High Tech will take a fair bit of fitting and finishing in most instanecs from my research, might scratch that frm the list...

Cheers all, keep the opinions coming, especially keen to hear how well these stocks fit the Mk. X out of the box.

blacks

It came pretty well finished up. There were minor fitting issues, I had to inlet for the second recoil lug and then I bedded it. Other than that is was pretty good. Not custom by anymeans but a good working stock.

Thanks mate.

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I should have stressed the 'high strength' part, this rifle has already killed a Ramline and a Richard's Laminate that was dual crossbolted and devcon bedded.

A 458 simply is not that high in the recoil area. Hard to understand how a laminate with dual crossbolts and proper inletting and glass bedding failed from a 458. Then again I've never played with a Richards Laminate.

The Laminate was Devcon 'epoxy steel' bedded, and it actually broke out a block nearly 1" square from behind the recoil lug....devcon and all. I'm thinking it came down more to the shitty inletting of the Richards....I'll never be spending money there again this thing was atrocious!

blacks

How did you kill the Ramline? You are tightening the guard screw aren't you?

Yeah mate....I do have a fair idea about rifles...

The ramline was on it when I bought it and was never bedded...not a big fan of their stock anyhow, IMO very 'hollow and plasticcy'.

It's not the first Ramline I've heard of cracking on a MK. X .458, either...

blacks

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Originally posted by blacks:
I'm thinking it came down more to the shitty inletting of the Richards....I'll never be spending money there again this thing was atrocious!
blacks

Is that "Richards" and in "Richards Microfit"? One of the few stock makers who will ship to South Africa. I was planning on buying a stock from them sometime in the future.

How are Boyd's stocks? Better?

You can get a McMillan in a Sako Hunter style inlet for a Mark X. That works well if you have a long neck and long arms.

Otherwise they sell a model that is designed directly for the Mark X. You can save money by finishing and bedding it yourself. These can be had in four or five different "fill" weights. The "416 fill weight should be spot on for your project. The "sniper" fill would be overkill. These bed up very well with Devcon Steel or Devcon Titanium.

The Sako Hunter style is best if you plan to use a scope. For iron sights only, the Mark X style would be better.

LD

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Originally posted by umshiniwam:

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Originally posted by blacks:
I'm thinking it came down more to the shitty inletting of the Richards....I'll never be spending money there again this thing was atrocious!
blacks

Is that "Richards" and in "Richards Microfit"? One of the few stock makers who will ship to South Africa. I was planning on buying a stock from them sometime in the future.

How are Boyd's stocks? Better?

My advice - don't. The Richards version of '99% press fit' inlet should read '38% inlet, fits with hydraulic press. Inletting was poor and overall heaps of finishing required. Plus, their customer service is non-existant.

I can say the exact oppostite for Boyd's....I have a Boyd's JRS in forest camo laminate on my Ruger .350RM and it's great, took very little inletting too. I ordered by card straight off their website and it was here in Oz within 10 days, so I can't fault their service either. Highly reccommended!

blacks

Lawndart - thanks for the info mate!

lam? boyds "classic" lam, crossbolted and wirst pin, with marine-tex grey bedding

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Originally posted by blacks:

I can say the exact oppostite for Boyd's....I have a Boyd's JRS in forest camo laminate on my Ruger .350RM and it's great, took very little inletting too. I ordered by card straight off their website and it was here in Oz within 10 days, so I can't fault their service either. Highly reccommended!

blacks

Good to know, thanks blacks. I'll rather go to Boyds

Sorry for hijacking your thread!

Bell and Carlson makes the stocks for the CZ magnums. The medalist series has an aluminum bedding block system. They are readily available on the web. I like the one on my .416 Rigby CZ.

I also have a 458 in a BC medalist. Ordered it with 14.25 LOP, fits great and I like the way it looks. They have a reasonable turn around time even with custom features. It was easy to open up the channel and get a fit better than the factory stock. You'll need to remove the barrel lug, you would probably need to remove part of the aluminum to get it in, but I dont think its needed anyway. Shoots great and has held up to several hundred full, or near full power loads so far. I'll try to bet pics

Thanks a lot blokes, I was really leaning toward the B&C Medallist, I'm just waiting for them to get their export permits right with the state department or whoever it is...I've been corresponding via email with them.

My Mk. X dosen't have a barrel lug, so no problems there. Plus, I shoot my .458 with a standard 13.5" LOP, same as all my rifles. Shoule get it to around 8 pounds with a synthetic, just right for walkabout hunting...

Cheers,

blacks

Hi,

how does the Hogue with bedding block compare to the Bell & Carlson.

Does anyone have experience with both?

Cheers

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Originally posted by ptaylor:
I put my buddies 458 interarms in a B&C with the aluminum bedding block. Talk about a stout stock. It has aluminum running fore to aft and once I bedd it I can't see how it could be possible to break it.

I put a VZ-24 458WM in the same B&C full alu bed stock & after 50 or so rounds it split around the wrist. It now wears a Hogue (pillar) with 300+ 400g rounds fired & not a problem!

458Win,
I wonder if you shot "ole Ugly" from the bench much? I wonder about other folks same question. I wonder if that is the variable in the equation? I have seen old mausers in 8x57 that have seen thousands of rounds pound out the rear hole, compress the lug seat and crack the web and never have a further problem but the eyes say over time recoil damaged the bedding and structure of the stock.
I have a Whitworth that I probalby should drop into something else other than the nice factory replaced Wood it sits in but...I don't push it much at all anymore and I only shoot sitting over sticks at targets, never bench so it recoils freely.
Best regards,
dmw