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Changing a 336 from 30-30 to ?
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I have an older Marlin 336 in 30-30 which I would like to convert to a larger bore rifle. Perhaps a 35 or 444. Is this practical or too much cost and effort? I am hoping it is a simple barrel swamp and maybe a little rail work.
Anyone done anything of this sort?
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38-55 or 375 winchester will not need a new bolt. 444 or 45/70 will need a new bolt in addition to the barrel change and carrier modification/replacement.
 
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Frank, just sell ypur rifle, and buy what you want. That is the cheapest way to get there.

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Frank, just sell ypur rifle, and buy what you want. That is the cheapest way to get there.

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Have to agree on this one.
Not near as easy as a bolt rifle to change caliber


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Thanks guys. I won't go with the bolt change but the .375 might work. I have not found any pre-safety 375 rifles recently and since I like to shoot heavy for caliber I was thinking the barrel replace with maybe an octagon would look good and fill the twist rate issue.
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Thanks guys. I won't go with the bolt change but the .375 might work. I have not found any pre-safety 375 rifles recently and since I like to shoot heavy for caliber I was thinking the barrel replace with maybe an octagon would look good and fill the twist rate issue.
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Sounds like enough good reasons to go ahead.

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Thanks guys. I won't go with the bolt change but the .375 might work. I have not found any pre-safety 375 rifles recently and since I like to shoot heavy for caliber I was thinking the barrel replace with maybe an octagon would look good and fill the twist rate issue.
Frank


Be careful if you try the 38-55. It is an ancient design that can result in a chamber neck too small for a loaded round when the bullet diameter reqd is as large as .380.

I do not understand why people think it is hard to convert a 336 to something else when the gunsmithing forum is always stuffing a .404 Jeffery into a run of the mill 98 Mauser.
 
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An octagon barrel is as good a reason as any to go through the head ache. That being said, it would be easier to sell a .404 in a 98 easier then a converted 336 or at least the 98 would be worth more to me. But 336 in any decent caliber with an octagon barrel. It would be a coin toss


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Checkout http://www.35caliber.com/, Jess Ocumpah, he did my 3030 to 356 Win rebore.

What rails?? No rails in a Marlin 336 and ALL the parts to change are available at Brownells, Midway or Gunparts.

I depends on how much you mean by "on the cheap". I bought 444M and 45-70 Marlin OEM barrels, carrier and bolt, mag tube and the necessary other parts from Gunparts, Midway and Brownells...I will have about $350 in parts by the time I'm through but will have a "switch barrel" Marlin when I'm through...356W, 444M and 45-70.

The easiest and cheapest thing to do is have it rechambered to 300 Savagege, 307/308 or 308 Marlin Express(300 Savage in drag).

You DO need to do some milling/lathe work and know a bit about gunsmithing.

Short answer...sell it and buy what you want or send it to Jess...for about $275 he will do you any number of calibers...talk to him or Clearwater reboring.

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Reboring is the cheapest major conversion you can do. The old 35/30-30 was a popular rebore back in the corrosive ammo days. No real headache to feed and good bullets abound. IIRC you can reach and even exceed some 35 Remington loads.


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An octagon barrel is as good a reason as any to go through the head ache. That being said, it would be easier to sell a .404 in a 98 easier then a converted 336 or at least the 98 would be worth more to me. But 336 in any decent caliber with an octagon barrel. It would be a coin toss


Yeh...I'd like to buy a M336 in .338 Marlin, but haven't been able to locate one around here.

That would be an interesting conversion.....


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Frank get a Marlin 444 then rebarrel to 375 JDJ or 375x444. Then you'll have a real powerhouse



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I have converted Marlin 30-30s to 40-65, 45-70 and 38-56; it takes a lot of work on the receiver, carrier, lever, loading gate, mag tube, etc, so better off getting the big one first. But for a 38-55, all you will need is a barrel. No one uses the old .379/.380 groove barrels any more; they are all .375, so the chamber neck diameter is not an issue; just make sure your reamer is the right diameter. I like the idea of a 375 JDJ, which BTW is the same case capacity as the old 38-56 Win and I use the same loads.
 
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But for a 38-55, all you will need is a barrel. No one uses the old .379/.380 groove barrels any more


If he gets one of those left over Winchester barrels from the spare parts houses it will have the oddball dimensions.
 
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Thanks for the extra ideas. I looked into rebore and re barrel but have decided that a 35/30-30 is not a big enough advantage. The .338 Marlin might be good based on the variety of bullets I can buy or swage but again, I think I am stuck on bigger is better. My not knowing enough about gunsmithing or what needs doing forces me to forgo the ideas of the 40-65 or 38-56. I found a 38-55 rifle but the price was a little too high.
I have decided to sell this one and wait to find another .444. I already have dies, brass and bullets galore along with rings and mounts so I just need to keep looking and try to keep some funds in the bank for the day I find it.
This one will go to classified as soon as I get some photos made.
Frank
 
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