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| <CAL9 from planet Fargo> |
Ken- due to its significantly longer length, you'll need to find a magnum length receiver to build up a 300 H&H. A standard length receiver built for a 3006 is too short. Any action built to utilize the 375 h&h, 7mm STW, or such, will work. CAL | ||
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Ken, I assume that if you are having a 300 H&H made, then you are going down "classic cartridge avenue" The ideal rifle to start with is Model 70 in 375 H&H and for a few reasons. (choice 2 is a CZ in 375 H&H) Firstly, the Model 70s and H&Hs go together. Secondly, the Model 70 in 375 H&H will feed the 300 H&H spot on. Thirdly, the 375 barrel you take off can allow you to switch back to 375. Also, if you like the 300 H&H then you will want a 375 H&H as sure as the sun rises and you will have an unused barrel in 375 H&H. You can change a 30/06 M70 for 300 H&H, but it is painful. Savage and H&H is getting as close to censorship as I would ever get Mike | |||
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And what about doing the same job on a Mauser 98 standard length? Is there any more tasks than prolonged magasine and altering the loading ramp and the bolt head? I�m thinking about rebarreling a M98, but a .30-06 is as good as boring. Another option would be the German 8x68S. Thankfully, Fritz | |||
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| <Ken in VA> |
But will the H&H fit that long 110 action? | ||
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Ken, the 300 H & H will fit the long action 110. You will need the magnum bolt face. The problem used to be the magazine and stock, but now that Savage chambers the 375 H & H, 7mm STW, and 300 RUM, you can get the parts from the factory. i f you are doing it on a new gun, try to find one in these calibers, it will make your job easier. Fritz, the 98 can be modified for 375 length cartridges, but some people feel that you are cutting too much metal away from the front feed ramp section of the action. Can be done, has been done, and will be done again. find a 'smith who has successfully done a conversion, and after that it's your call. - Dan | |||
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| <Ken in VA> |
Dan, Thanks for the answer. Exactly the information I was looking for. Ken | ||
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Fritz, You do not have to cut metal away from the front of a 98 Mauser to make a magnum...Properly openned up Mauser are openned up in the rear and possibly about 40 thousands in front and you can do that with your fingernail  Some companies have openned them up in front altogether and the Mark X Whitworth is one of them, and they have gotten away with it for eons and I have never heard of one giving problems with 300 H&H, 458 Win. or 375 H&H but if re-barreled to 7 stw or some of the hot numbers of today then lookout! instant headspace..same with commercial FNs... ------------------ | |||
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Ray, I agree totally. The proper way to do it is to open the rear of the action. But all the commercial (FN,PH,Mark X) actions that I have seen were opened at the front, and this seems to make people think that it's perfectly Ok to just carve away. Hence my comment, "find a 'smith who knows". Not just someone who owns a grinder. On the other hand, I've never seen problems on these actions with the cartridges they were designed for either. Seems to me I remember reading an article about a gent who converted a standard length mag face commercial 98 action to 338-378 some time back, and he went into a lot of detail about the procedure. He said that the only action failures he had seen were on the 375 factory opened actions. FWIW - Dan | |||
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| <Rich> |
You can build the H&H on the M70 classic action, the long actions are all magnum length. Thew 30-06 will have a spacer in the rear of the mag box. You will need the full length box and follower, Brownells stocks the parts. The ejection ports are cut back further on the H&Hs, but the only time it is a problem is ejecting loaded rounds. A few passes on the mill and all is well. Unless you already have the M70 classic, a better option might be to buy a pre-64 already chambered in .300 H&H, should find a decent one for under 1k without too much difficulty. | ||
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Dan and Ray, thanks for your advises. i have to discuss it with my gunsmith next time I see him. Best regards, Fritz | |||
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quote: Ray, having read your post I took the M98 (FN commercial) out of the rack, and made some measurements with a caliper. The lack of lenght is about 7 mm (1/4", and if that is taken away, there will be required an alteration of the bolt stop and the ejector blade. And there must, as you put it, be some tenths filed away in the front. I must admit a bit scepticism to the alteration, as I also will have to get a new bottom plate or lengthen it (welding?). Perhaps I will go of the 8x68 instead - some lengthening there to, but not that much. Hmmm... something to meditate about. Best regards, Fritz | |||
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