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I've just about made it to the starting line to order one of these ... The only thing that really puts me off is the stock. See http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/r346.htm for an example. Would it be a bad idea to try and rework this to something more eye-pleasing? I'd think I would start with planing the comb to a straight line, maybe turning it into more of a modest Monte Carlo, then trimming the edges of the cheekpiece to more of a rounded edge with a little shadow line. Then recut the butt with a little less pitch and put a suitably large pad on it. Any thoughts? What else would you regard as a minimum modification of this rifle? | ||
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There is a straight stock for the CZ, although the drop is about two inches and no cheek piece I have one of these and can not for the life of me understand why anyone would choose the one above, if You were given a choice. Doesn�t CZ-USA import these ones? All the best Jens | |||
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John, You are trying to make a sow's ear out of a sow's ass h*le. I can't see any way you can make this a suitable stock. You might use it to build a pattern for someone to duplicate. Or look for one of the Classic styles. I thought they had one. Chic | |||
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I had a custom composite made for mine, my .416 Rigby cracked my original stock anyway. | |||
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quote:Now that is throwing down the gauntlet -- with some bondo I could probably build the comb as high as I'd really like it. (And then hunt with it for years like Finn Aagaard did with his 7x64.) I asked CZ if they made a classic stock for the Safari magnums, they said no, only for all the other long- and short-action models ... God knows why. John | |||
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The only option is to spend more money on a new stock. I got a McMillan. Will | |||
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My CZ Rigby has the hogback stock on it and while a little high with the iron sights, I find it comfortable with a scope. Try it (the stock) you might like it. | |||
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this had puzzeled me for a while. I think the Hog back stock on the Magnum is the delux stock. I *think* the Magnum is also available in the standard stock which while not straight,is certainly alot better.I think this is the stock Jens is talking about. The stock I mean can be seen on the standard 550: http://www.czub.cz/detail/images/Cz550st-V.jpg What really gets me is that they produce a straight high combed stock for the CZ 550American, http://www.czub.cz/detail/images/Cz550am-v.jpg why not make that an opition for the magnum? [ 08-03-2002, 03:32: Message edited by: Pete E ] | |||
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John, I thought that might get you worked up. What caliber are you considering? I did happen to see a new CZ 550 that someone had ordered from a local gun shop. It was in .470 Capstick and it had a straight stock. It likely was a special order. It had some semi fancy English and actually did look good. No bondo though, darn, lol. And BTW, if you would like to feel your gun stock raise up and slap your cheek, all you have to do is lower the pivot point (aka heel of the stock in this case), but then you don't have to do that, they have done it for you. Knew those physics classes would come in handy somtime for somethng I enjoy. Chic [ 08-03-2002, 04:45: Message edited by: Customstox ] | |||
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Man I know i must be a bit off because I like the look of that Hogback stock. In fact it's one of the things I like about the CZ rifle. Of course I like plain old Savages too! ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} I f the stock fits well I'd be more apt to put my tune up money into triggers, actions and fittings. | |||
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Pete E, The link You provided is right on the money, exactly the layout of the stock I have (416 Rigby) I must have been lucky or the factory used the wrong quality of wood on mine. I am too uneducated to know if its Turkish or English, but the figure in the wood is very good (compared too the pictures above for example) Why CZ does not offer the American classic style is beyond me, but I have seen more drop on rifles made by H&H, Westley Richards etc. I have previously had some negative opinions about the trigger, the heavier I adjusted it the more the parts were locked down making it impossible for the sear to pop up in the correct position.- two angles were corrected and now I can use the range of adjustment the trigger was intended for. The trigger is IMO too much forward in the trigger guard and also too thin. This will soon be remedied by a new trigger spur from AHR, $65 and opening the slot in the bottom metal to handle the .25" trigger. All the best Jens | |||
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Jens, Where are you getting the trigger shoe for $65??? Thanks Will | |||
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jens--- You should be aware that the new trigger will unbalance the trigger making inertial firing of the trigger with butt impact is more possible. The change the CZ trigger the pivot point has to be moved first. No one is doing that yet. It'll take a rework of the action to accomplish. There's NO way I would install the AHR unit in a rifle. | ||
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quote:Chic, I'm planning on getting a .375 H&H -- I am now forced to since the 270-gr. Hornady "blems" at Midsouth were marked down so far I had to buy 10 boxes! (I got my confirmation e-mail today, my UPS driver is going to love me for those 62 lbs. of bullets.) I know what you mean about lowering the pivot point but will be interested to see how low the comb ends up -- the only .375 I've shot was a factory Model 70 and the only shot that bothered me was the one where I didn't cheek the stock firmly and it got a good running start. That was an owie. Anyway, might as well play with the stock since there can't possibly be any way to sell it! I've determined that aftermarket wood stocks are available from Richards and Great American, and synthetics from McMillan, so there is a Plan B ... Also, would you recommend a crossbolt behind the recoil lug? I notice the factory only bolts at the rear of the action. John | |||
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Will, Edit - Sorry I did not answer correctly, Mims Reed, Hunters Headquarters have helped me numerous times by now. (Win mod 70 lefthand, Williams one piece bottom metal.) www.hunters-hq.com Really excellent service. The trigger is from www.hunting-rifles.com/images/2bolts_large.jpg I would seriously take JBelk�s advise though. JBelk, I was under the impression that the only thing You get, when ordering the trigger, is a reshaped trigger shoe/spur .250" wide. I have removed the parts for the set trigger, the adjustments I made, makes it possible to have a trigger pull of 4.4 lbs. Although I have a thick kick-eez recoil pad installed, i can bounce the rifle from roughly a foot off the ground 10 times in a row without trigger release. Maybe I should order some new parts ? All the best Jens [ 08-03-2002, 21:48: Message edited by: Jens ] | |||
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Jens--- quote:I think that's right. The point I was making was that any increase in the trigger shoe adds weight below the pivot point. SAMMII test is (by memory) a 24 inch drop to a one inch rubber pad of I forget what durometer hardness, with a concrete slab underneath. You can mathematically calculate the amount of unbalanced weight needed to enertia fire an out of balance trigger. ... It's not much, but the M-70 has gotten away with it for many years. ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif){kind=icon} I'll bet I haven't pulled one of my CZ triggers *without* the set trigger being set, a half a dozen times. I adjust the set trigger for about a pound and leave the single stag at 5 or 8 or whatever it is and always use the set feature. [ 08-03-2002, 22:46: Message edited by: JBelk ] | ||
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You know, the more I think about this the more I think I'll just get a Winchester Model 70 Safari Express, get the trigger done and use it as is. | |||
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quote:Thanks for that analogy, Chic. Now I'm blowing my nose, trying to get the coffee out, then I have to wipe the coffee spray off my monitor... | |||
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John, I've been debating this for weeks and I'm coming to your conclusion. I want a .375H&H DGR rifle. However the Ruger m77 is too expensive. The cz 550 needs to be restocked. The m70 winchester seems about right and costs less than the cz once you restock. Plus, the m70 has the barrel band and two stock crossbolts. However, I heard of quality control isues at winchester. Any problems with my logic folks? | |||
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John, I would do the one behind the recoil lug before I did the one behind the magazine box. So you went hog wild on those mid south bullets. I saw the thread too late and anything I would have wanted (lead tips) were gone. Prices looked very nice though. Todd, sorry about that, happens to me often here too. Usually from our friend Jack. | |||
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quote:Hmmm. The Winchester comes with the lugs from the factory. And yes, I did go hog wild with Midsouth, I also got 1,000 of the .270 150-gr. SP which, like the .375s, were discounted more deeply than everything else for some reason. They must've had a heck of a lot of the .270s since they didn't sell out by the next day. | |||
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