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I am going to have a 1909 Argie annealed and re-treated, but know not what tell PACMET to get this done. Should I tell them I want the Burgess method, do I have to specify a hardness point? I am a complete novice when it comes this and any help would be valuable.

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The "Burgess Method" already spells out that information.




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Thank you Z1R.

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Should I tell them I want the Burgess method, do I have to specify a hardness point?


I believe they also have D'arcy Ecols spec. on file. IIRC, it is the same hardness but with a slightly deeper case(or whatever you call the hardened "shell").


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JBrown good to know, help me understand why you would specify one of the other, I have 3-4 receiver/bolts to send them and I'd like to better understand the difference and how each would apply and or affect performance, thanks.


I really don't know why you would choose one over the other. Both Burgess and Echols are among the most knowledgeable gunsmiths ever.

I'm sure if you called D'arcy he would tell you why he refined the Burgess method.


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Well, for Pete's sake. Expound on "the methods," and the differences!

I'd like to know, as I'm thinking about trying a local guy. All of us don't want to take someone's time
 
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Well, for Pete's sake. Expound on "the methods," and the differences!

I'd like to know, as I'm thinking about trying a local guy. All of us don't want to take someone's time


If you are using a local guy, he should know how to carburise.

You want the Burgess/Echols method, send it to PacMet.




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DArcy_Echols_Co posted 25 August 2013 09:50
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The method I use is the same as Tom's. However I will have the action and bolt annealed dead soft. Then install the new bolt handle, cut the slot for the new handle in the action, do all of the rail work and feed well work if it to become a belted magnum, clean up the lug seats grind the rings to within a couple .002 of final specs then both to be re-carborized pre Tom's specs. When both these return I finish grinding the top of the front and rear rings,just touch up the bolt face with a skim pass, and insure that both recoil lugs are contacting the lug seats completely. I also take a few thou (.001 to .002 off the receiver face between centers on my lathe. So I have a "trued and now re-case hardened action"

I hope this helps


That was awesome. It is not what I recall was stated before, but it was great to hear how D'arcy does it.


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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