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Help Please - Trying to Identify Mystery Stock
02 June 2011, 07:48
craigsterI'm pretty sure it's for a Husqvarna M-8000. The tang configuration (M70 Win style) and the angle cut for the safety are the keys.The M-8000 was introduced by Husky in (I think ) the late 60s and discontinued in a few years. S&W marketed some of these in the early 70s. There was also the M-9000, an up-graded 8000.
02 June 2011, 09:05
kriggeværNo, it does not work with either the Husqvarna 1640 or 1900 series actions. The front action screw in the Husqvarnas threads into the recoil lug. This stock is inletted differently for a rifle action where the front action screw and recoil lug are separate from each other. Husqvarna made S&W rifles from 1967 to 1970 then sold out to FFV Carl Gustaf which continued building the S&W rifles.
02 June 2011, 23:43
cgbachLooks like one of the Parker Hale's that were sold by the discount stores around here in the early '70's.
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03 June 2011, 01:32
M1TankerBeing that is is a S&W stock I would bet that it is for a S&W 1500. Which was made by Howa - the same gun as the Weatherby Vanguard also. I dont have mine here to check but that would be my guess.
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Doesn't look like a Howa, which is a Sako copy and has a different tang. I vote that it is a Mossberg. Actually, that is a guess.
03 June 2011, 05:08
NakihunterInteresting puzzle....let us see...
Not a Husky 1640 as it not for a Mauser action. It has a round front ring bedding surface like a Remington which should narrow the options. The Parker Hale option stops with the external appearance & checkering. again it is not for a Mauser action. I first thought it might be for the Tikka LSA 55 (sold in the US as the Ithaka 55) but that also has a flat bedding surface like the Mauser and Winchester.
Did Howa make this model in the 1970's??
The Mosberg option has some merit but those rifles may have been made by someone else & sold as Mosberg!
My guess is that it is a lower end maker.....
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03 June 2011, 06:01
kriggeværThanks for the input - the Mossberg is one I have not looked at yet and well worth researching. And, at least from the schematics I've examined, I don't think it is for a Howa.
Doing the research on this stock, I came across several references for varous gun makers who were courting S&W to use their rifles for the S&W brand, so I have wondered if this stock was possibly from a prototype or demonstration rifle. It originally came from the old Rifle Ranch in Montana and was sold off when they packed up and moved to Arizona.
03 June 2011, 06:43
manhassetCould it be a BSA ?
03 June 2011, 07:22
ramrod340The old Mossberg 800 looks similar. However I thought the safety was on the shroud and this looks like a cut in the stock for a safety. Aftermarket?
The mossberg 1500 was the Howa. I believe the BSA had the front screw in the lug.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
03 June 2011, 09:30
kriggeværYup, Mossberg 800 the safety is on the shroud and the front receiver ring has a flat bottom, so I don't think an 800 would fit. Will keep looking. Dimensionally, the stock looks like it might fit to a Ranger Arms Texas Magnum, except that rifle had a shotgun type crossbolt safety up in the trigger guard, so the safety inlet on the stock would have been unnecessary.
03 June 2011, 16:44
NakihunterJust a thought.....could this be an after market stock for the older Remingtons ...like the 725, 722 or even the 600 or 660??? The round front ring area and the notch for the safety might fit???? It assumes that the S&W but plate is not an original but just an add on...
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03 June 2011, 18:24
kriggeværI am headed over to a friend who has some of the pre-700 Remington rifles and see what what happens. The S&W buttplate may well be a false clue in all this, but don't really know.
03 June 2011, 19:22
weagleLooks like a Mauser model 99(not 98)or perhaps an FW heym.. I've never run across a Mauser 99 imported by S&W, but they have imported a bunch of different rifles.
Weagle
04 June 2011, 06:29
srtraxNo clue here...So the only screw holding it in the stock is the front reciever screw?
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04 June 2011, 08:37
Michael Robinsonquote:
Originally posted by srtrax:
No clue here...So the only screw holding it in the stock is the front reciever screw?
I am puzzling over the same thing. Don't have a clue, either.
Mike
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04 June 2011, 08:48
SmokinJI wonder if the rear screw area had it's web cut out between it and the trigger hole?
05 June 2011, 02:23
kriggeværWell, took it to a collector in the area and we looked at Howa, Weatherby, Remington 721,722,725, Sauer, a couple of Voere models, and a Krico; none of these will fit. So, next step is to contact S&W and see if I can find someone who can answer what it fits.
09 June 2011, 20:18
Art S.I just was on the McGowan barrel website, and they are selling Mauser 8000's on special. They say they are made under the exclusive license for the old HVA and state that it is similar to the lod S&W. It looks like an exact fit except for the front screw location. Safety and rear tang look like an exact match. The floor plate has a high projection between the trigger and the magazine which would explain the web being cut out. I would suggest trying to locate a S&W HVA and see if it fits. It's possible that the S&W version had a different floorplate and screwed into the ower reciever. It may have been a short action model built on a standard length action, with the magazine shortened at the front.