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<Rod@MRC>
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Montana Rifle Company is pleased to announce a special offer on the M1999 Left Handed Long Action. In order to bring the LH Long Action to the market in the shortest possible time, MRC will offer a maximum of 350 actions at a charter issue price of $350.00. These actions will be serialized starting at 0001 and ranging up to 0350. Serial numbers will be issued in chronological order from the date of receipt of a fully paid order. In addition, special requests (i.e. consecutive numbers) will be accepted on a first come-first serve basis. The sale of the first 100 units will generate enough revenue to start the molds and delivery is 20-26 weeks afterward. No checks or credit cards will deposited or run until we hit the 100-unit starting mark. A running tally will be posted here weekly. Call Dan Wynne at (406) 755-4867 to place an order.
 
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Rod,

OK I called Dan and gave him a credit card number and an order for the LH action (CM and .532" bolt face).

He also said my RH action was about ready. [Wink]

jim dodd

(Dupe post on African Hunting Forum)
 
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Damn lefties get all the good deals [Big Grin]
 
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Not to worry...when the time comes we'll probably do something like this on the Short Action, too. Both RH AND LH.
 
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Rod, would you please answer a few questions regarding this very attractive LH offering? Is this action available in stainless steel? Will your standard action length accommodate a 300 Weatherby or a 300 Rem Ultra chambering? CP.

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Damn lefties get all the good deals [Big Grin]

You MUST be kidding!!?! You righties have all the options. [Frown]

George

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George

Of course I'm kidding [Wink] I say damn all the lefties to baseball were they belong [Razz]

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I'll be on the lookout for the short offering. I may even pester you. [Big Grin]
 
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CP: Like the RH Long Action, which is now shipping, the LH will utilize four magazine boxes. Standard Magnum, for cartridges like 300win, 458win mag, and 338win. Long Magnum for the 300Weatherby, 375 H&H, and 416rem mag, the Ultra class cartridges, 300 RUM and all its cousins, and lastly a standard magazine for 30-06, 270win and all similar. Ruger casts in two alloys, 4140 and 415 stainless. For this offering the price is exactly the same.

Dempsey: You not have to wait too long, I'm thinking. We still have some magazine work to do on the SA, but when we get that right, it will be time to go to work.
 
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Rod, thank you for your response. My son will be calling Dan on Monday to order a LH stainless action with an Ultra class magazine box. CP.
 
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Rod, is there a current stock that the Montana action will fit(the LH action), or will this have to be a custom job from Mel Smart or one of the synthetics?
 
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Sambubba: Any LH M70 stock can be inletted to fit the M1999 LH with in about a half hour. In the M1999, the receiver ring projects beyond the recoil lug .075, which means taking a little out of the barrel channel. The rear tang on the M1999 does not come to a knife edge, but rather a .090 draft. It can be shaped to a knife edge, or inletted into the stock material for a flush fit. The rest of the footprint is exactly like a M70 LH
 
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Rod@MRC,

Can I send you $700 and reserve two short actions??? I need one in left and one in right hand and am willing to get you on your way to starting those abbreviated versions!

I'm actually serious if you would consider it.
 
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Matt: We actually have quite a few orders for Short Actions. Go ahead and call, but keep the money in your account for now. When the time comes, we'll contact all the Short Action folks who have placed orders, both left and right, and let them get first in line on any special we might offer.

We still have some magazine work to do on the SA.
 
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Rod, I passed on this offer to my southpaw rifle crank buddies (I hope that's OK), so I expect you'll be getting some phone calls from Alberta pretty soon. I think this action of your's is going to fly right. - Dan
 
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Dan: It's more than all right. A fellow name Guy called and ordered two in stainless. Thank you. As big as the AR forum is, it's not the whole world. Getting the word out is a quite a challenge. Still, we're doing well on the first hundred. Come friday, I'll post a list of ser.#'s with initials attached. We're still trying to get in touch with some of the folks who placed orders for LH months ago. They should have first crack at the low numbers.

I spoke with the engineering manager (Mark Gurney) at Ruger today. He told me to call him at home next week (he's on vacation) if we want to start the LH molds. He had some ideas on how to improve the operation of the molds based on what they learned on RH. Wanted to get it started right.

If anyone has ideas on where else to float this offer, drop me a note.

rod@montanarifleman.com
 
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Here's where the "list" stands today. We've agreed to accept unique serial #'s during this run, so some of the "numbers" are really something else. Unique numbers require special engraving plates, so we have to charge an extra $60.00 for this service.

Thanks all for the great support thus far.

2/24/03 = 86

Liberty - mh
35WH - cs
0001 - cfg
0002 - cfg
0003 - jd
0004 - jb
0005 - dcgs
0006 - tsm
0007 - jc
0008 - sn
0009 - jp
0010 - ajc
0011 - rs
0012 - ps
0013 - tb
0014 - kcg
0015 - dt
0016 - hs
0017 - hs
0018 - hs
0019 - hm
0020 - hm
0021 - ep
0022 - pg
0023 - ts
0024 - bh
0025 - jp
0026 - jp
0027 - ta
0028 - bb
0029 - bb
0030 - jb
0031 - rr
0032 - tj
0033 - dj
0034 - mp
0035 - ac
0036 - bw
0037 - aa
0038 - pt
0039 - do
0040 - mb
0041 - mb
0042 - ac
0043 - pc
0044 - et
0045 - et
0046 - dcgs
0047 - hkcg
0048 - jn
0049 - jn
0050 - bd
0051 - de
0052 - mm
0053 - tw
0054 - pt
0055 - tw
0056 - mb
0057 - ks
0058 - ks
0059 - jz
0060 - jb
0061 - cl
0062 - jc
0063 - bcs

0065 - dr

0069 - bs
0070 - sm

0075 - cn
0076 - cn
0077 - sm

0088 - rr

0099 - jg
0100 - jg

0131 - cs

0186 - jf

0198 - bp
0199 - bp
0200 - jy

0218 - ta

0300 - je
0301 - je

0338 - rk

0349 - gm
0350 - gm

0431 - db

The next update is 2/28/03

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Can one of these be opened up to make a 404 Jeffrey (not Ultramag) caliber rifle?

H. C.
 
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HenryC470: My data book indicates the .404 Rimless Nitro Express (Jeffrey) would need a bolt face diameter of about .550in. This is a very modest opening of the magnum bolt face we deliver. (.534 +/-.002)

Of greater concern is the case length of 2.87+in. The internal magazine length of the Long Action is 3.650 which would limit cartridge length to about 3.620. Is this enough?

A custom smith certainly could open the bolt face, and there's room in the back of the magazine well for judicious lengthening. Hope this helps.
 
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HenryC470: My data book indicates the .404 Rimless Nitro Express (Jeffrey) would need a bolt face diameter of about .550in. This is a very modest opening of the magnum bolt face we deliver. (.534 +/-.002)

Of greater concern is the case length of 2.87+in. The internal magazine length of the Long Action is 3.650 which would limit cartridge length to about 3.620. Is this enough?

A custom smith certainly could open the bolt face, and there's room in the back of the magazine well for judicious lengthening. Hope this helps.

Rod,

I don't have a whole lot of data on the 404 cartridge right in fromt of me. My A-Square reloading manual gives an OAL of 3.600" for a loaded 375 H&H cartridge and an OAL of 3.530" for a loaded 404 cartridge.

Using those examples, I guess the 404 Jeffrey cartridge would fit your magazine (lengthwise) nicely. I guess it's harder to say what the capacity would end up being or what the feed rails would ultimately have to look like.

Worse comes to worst, I guess I could have me a real nice left handed 416 Remington or 458 Lott. Thanks for the information.

H. C.
 
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Henry: The ultramag follower and box would probably work for this cartridge, or at least the follower. Three in the box, I'll bet. Standard magnum feed rails most likely. When and if the time comes, send three dummy cartridges and we'll see what happens.
 
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Rod,
Unique Serial Numbers??? Hmmm, could you elaborate a little more? I will call you if that would be preferred.

Safe Hunting.
 
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Clint: unique serial numbers means wife's name. Your name, pet's name, etc. Given the limited space on the receiver ring, we'd have to keep this limited to about eight characters. Again, first come first served. All unique numbers are preceded with "C03-" which tells us action size and year of manufacture.
 
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How's the list coming? Are you near 100?

What's the purpose of the dovetail shape of the bolt lugs?

H. C.
 
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I knew there was something I forgot on Friday. Big mixup on shipping. We received a bunch of bolts and receivers that were supposed to go to the polisher before they came to us. Plus the packing slips were very confusing, so we had to open every box and hand count all the components. And then send it to the polisher. I'll get the list updated on Monday. I think it's at forty-something.

The left lug is the only one that is dovetailed. The purpose is to control pitch and yaw of the bolt nose while cycling the action. It is an anti-bind feature first used by Carl Gustav some years ago.
 
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Rod.excuse a beginers question but what cartiridges would work in your left hand action your talking about,am trying to make up my mind on wether to order one or not
 
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Dave: The LH is a mirror image of the RH Long Action, which was designed to handle .473 and .532 bolt face cartridges up to a SAAMI length of 3.600in. The internal magazine space for long magnums (like 375H&H) is 3.650in to insure proper feeding. There are four magazine boxes available: 30-06 and all its cousins. 300win and similar types of medium length magnums. The long magnums like 300 weatherby, 375 H&H, and 416 REM. And finally, the UltraMag cartridges. If you're unsure the cartridge you have in mind is applicable, give us a call.

The LH list is updated.
 
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Rod, I'm thinking about a pair of the LH actions in a .30 cal and a .40+. Can you tell me the magazine capacity in the various .30 cals (thinking specifically .30-06, vs. 300 H&H, vs. 300 Win, or suggestions?) and in the .40's (thinking 416 Rem Mag vs. 404 Jeff). Also suggestions on calibers that will feed better than others would be appreciated. I have a .375 M70, but now need the 'bookends'.

Also, when these actions are ready, will y'all be able to barrel them?

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Postdriver: Is that in as "delivering the mail" or "punching fence posts". [Smile]

RE: your questions.

All belted magnums are three in the box.

All Ultra mags are three in the box.

30-06 (and similar types) is four in the box.

Jeffrey should be like Ultra mag.

.416 Rem feeds fine. We use this cartridge in final feed and function tests for long magnum.

Our "sister" company has been producing barrels for 12 years. They will gladly supply barreled actions with the barrels chambered threaded and fitted, OR as contoured blanks for your gunsmith to do the job. Your choice.

This is a tough time of year to try to close out the first 100 units but we've made reasonable progress even so. A big ad on this offer comes out in Shotgun News and Gunlist on the first week of Feb. Earliest we could get it in. (Thanks, Ned, for the suggestion.)
 
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Rod how much does the RH action cost?
 
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Doug: RH and LH long actions are both priced the same, beginning at $465.00 retail for a CM .473 bolt face. Magnum options and SS cost a bit more and the upper price is $490.00. Substantial FFL discounts apply. Dan would be happy to discuss them if you fax a copy of your FFL to 406-755-9449.

In order to get the LH action off the ground, MRC decided to offer a "charter issue" at a price that is better than the FFL discount. Same price for everyone.
 
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Thanks much for the reply, Rod ... and on Christmas, no less! I tried to call you on Tuesday, but all were gone, and I don't blame you a bit!

Now all I have to do is decide between .416 Rem and .404 Jeff (different action lengths). Oh yeah, and decide between '06 and some sorta '06 improved (I'd sure like to have those 4 down, thus precluding the .300 mags)... unless we can figure out some kinda mag mods such as a drop box or dropped floor plate.

PostDriver ... well, I was trying to come up with a 'handle' when I first registered several years ago, and I had just returned from the ranch where we'd been ... guess what ? I wanted a very 'down-to-earth' name, and couldn't think of anything more rustic than driving fence posts for a few days [Smile] .

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LH list has been updated. We've prepared a postcard mailing to go out early next week.
 
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Man Rod I just found this post, I might have to give your man Dan a call Friday afternoon if you folks are open . It would be around 2 or 2:30 Indiana time . Thanks
 
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Halfway home. We've a postcard mailing going out shortly.
 
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Make that 52, I talked to dan this afternoon and had him put me on the list. [Big Grin]
 
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The list is updated, but does not include Mel Smart's customers. We'll get those next week.
 
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One more! It ought to make a great 338 WSM.
 
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The list has been updated. 61 of 100. Post cards are out, orders coming in. Still don't have Mel Smart's list yet.
 
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Rod, do the threads on your action accomodate any of the Remington or Winchester barrels?
 
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Sambubba: The threads are 1-16V, so a Ruger and M70 screw in fine. I don't remember offhand what the Rem 700 uses.

That said, the breech is different than the M70. YOu would have to machine away the cone breeh to a Mauser-like configuration. And then extend the threads on the barrel and rechamber. A lot of work for a factory barrel, but maybe a reasonable idea for a high $$$ custom bore.
 
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