I was doing some research reading this weekend and ran across a statement I was unaware of at min and critical of for lack of proof, but it may be entirely valid. The statement was basically:



The post 1964 model 70 Winchesters were investment cast......and that the barrels had been broached before, but were changed to hammer forged in 1964.



So my first question is anybody know the real scoop on this? Fact or fiction?



My next question is does anybody make a non investment cast rifle anymore? I know Ruger is, assuming the above statement is correct Winchester is, I thought Remington was still using billet, what about CZ, Browning, Savage, the new Sako's I think are cast, I know Kimbers are, Dakota?



Are there any non investment cast revievers made anymore if so who makes them? I presume that the CZ-24's by BRNO ( not that I can find a new one ) are at least old school?



Note: typo in the original post changed from 1984 to 1964

One of the reasons for casting receivers, as I understand it, is to eliminate the need for broaching the lug ways.

Swamp! How ya doing buddy?

Not sure but the story about Win cast recievers may be
related to the model 94 action. Rumers spread and loose
facts along the way.
John L.

JAL,

A rumor I would have immediately discounted, and chaulked it up to gun guys acting like old woman gossips.

This was a pretty extensive article on model 70's, it is the only reason I gave it any credence at all.

I really don't know, but had my suspicions on that statement. I do know that I saw a 300 win mag about a year ago that new in the box had terrible galling down the rails ( no I was not impressed ) that was .03-.04" and then blued, which indicated machine work ( although crappy ) to me. I guess it is also possible to gall a cast reciever in a broaching operation I suppose????

Schromf: I cannot say for certain but I do not believe that Winchester (USRAC) actions are investment cast. I can tell you that Dakota actions are not cast, rather they are machined from a solid billet of steel that is already hardened before machining. I have been to the plant in Sturgis many times and watched the machining process.

Tom