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Problem with a Winchester Coyote safety.....
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Here is my latest problem..... Recently I purchased a Winchester Coyote 243. The owner told me that the rifle had had a Jewell trigger on it at one time, so it had no safety. I bought the rifle and sure enough the safety is installed, but does not work. Since I had a Jewell trigger for a 70 in my drawer I went ahead and put it on the gun. It went right on as I expected it would, since a Jewell had been there before.
What would someone have had to do to the rifle to enable them to make the Jewell work? I looked at the cocking lever(?) on the bottom side of the bolt and it looked like someone had ground part of it away. I then pulled the bolt from my other brand new Coyote (to compare) and that bolt also appeared to have been ground, but it was a much nicer job than this used gun.
Does anyone know what may have happened? Can you explain how I might take this apart, or perhaps I will have to take the rifle to a gunsmith? One smith I talked to today told me I probably needed a new cocking lever, but that they are almost impossible to get. He also told me his boss did not allow any kind of safety work to be done at the shop because of liability concerns. What kind of a world this has become! Thanks for any comment anyone can make........pg
 
Posts: 16 | Location: Houston TX | Registered: 11 May 2007Reply With Quote
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Without seeing the actual gun and trigger I couldn't tell you what would have to have been done to make the Jewell trigger work. What I can tell you is if the safety is present but not working then the connection between the cocking piece and the sear are too short which would put the safety notch out of reach of the safety cam, preventing the safety from engaging.

If someone ground the cocking piece too short for whatever reason, this would cause the safety to not work. I would recommend letting a gunsmith look at it to see if the cocking piece is the problem.

FWIW, any gunsmith or shop that would run from a job making a safety work, has no business being in business and should have his/her ass removed. That's the job of a gunsmith, keeping safeties working. Smiler


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Thanks for the info Westpac. The gunsmith I spoke with is employed by Bill Carter in Houston. Carter is the owner of a huge gun business in Houston, and the smith told me Carter will not allow them to work on safety issues. Maybe it was just BS coming from the guy.
Anyway, I have not been able to find any drawings of the bolt and safety mechanical features on a Model 70 anywhere. There seems to be much more info available on a Remington 700. There is also much more discussion found around a Rem 700 than a Win 70, or do I just have a bad perception on that?
I do know that I have put several Jewell triggers on 700's and they just drop into place. That seems not to be the case with a Winchester. I cannot understand why the safety lever will not turn on my gun, but it must be because the thing has been ground too short.......pg
 
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