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Hello All, I am working on a little wildcat project. I am debating on a 6.5 -7 mm Dakota. I know, I know....Barrel burner, over-bore, why? Well, besides being one legged I want one. THere is a better description at the Wildcat forum but I digress. So, I currently have a redundant 338 Win Mag Classic that I could use and a few 30-06's bought for projects like this. I am open to different rounds and all but I wanted to know what action you'd use besides what I have. I am intrigued by the Sako. Which is the best of the different makes? L61R, AV, 75? I have a 375 in Sako and love it so maybe that is why I am interested. I also love the Win Model 70 Classic's. What are your thoughts? I am mostly concerned here with an education in Sako's. I look to learning more about them and why you would choose one of the their versions over another. I can afford to buy a new action if it gains me anything. Cheers, Jason | ||
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I think the first question you really need to ask is how much do you want to spend...not on the action but on the gun total. By far the least expensive is to use a Reminton 700 because of all the the stocks and other after market components...the most expensive is probably a military mause beacuse even thought hte action is chaeaper all the work that is done to it makes it very expensive. In between are Ruger and Win Mod 70s. Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I'd be looking for a Remington 700 action /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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have you considered a ruger #1 or #3? my last wildcat was a 250/3000 AI on a #3 action and i love it. it's not a 6.5/7mm dak. but the action will carry it, no problem. GOOD LUCK and GOOD SHOOTING wm.f. in fla | |||
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I'm prejudiced, but I wouldn't consider sinking the money into a custom rifle unless I used a Sako action. The Remington 700 is admittedly very functional and fairly economical, but what you have when you're finished is a pipe with a trigger hung on it and a bedding lug bolted on the front end. The older (pre-Garcia, or pre-1972) L-61 R actions might be considered the pick of the litter because of their Mauser-type third, or safety lug at the rear of the bolt. The later L-61R is just as good, and even though the redundant third lug is missing, it's stregth certainly doesn't suffer in any way. The A-III and A-V are similar to one another and differ from the L-61R primarily in having a shrouded firing pin, and from each other slightly in the tang. Some would say that the later actions aren't finished in as fine a detail as the earlier actions, but in a custom gun, your builder is going to do a fine-tuning on the action anyway, so this is of little consequence. The Model 75 is a completely different action, using a three-lug, 60 degree bolt. There's nothing wrong with it (although many people say it's trigger isn't as good), but it's harder to find a "beater" rifle to salvage an action from, so you're probably looking at more money to use this action, and likely purchasing a new action, which will cost you as much as an entire older gun. The L- and A- series can often be found on a well-used gun that can be bought worth the money for the salvage action. There is one action in between the A- series and the 75: The S 691. It used a non-fixed bedding (recoil) lug, and although it can certainly be built into a very serviceable rifle, most people don't like it quite as well. Hope this helps, and good luck with your project | |||
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