Anyone have a source for professional bolt flutting on a la Remington 700 bolt. Price (cheap would be nice) but I'm after a good looking job more than anything else, and a quick turn around time...after all isn't that all its good for is looks. If you had one done and like it let me know...I've already searched it on the net and there are just too many doing it and thought someone here could direct me to who you had experience with and would recommend. Not looking to get the bolt knob changed...I like the factory handle as is. Thanks!

Steve, Go the Accurateshooter.com. A guy named bolt fluter resides there. I've had Karl Feldcamp of Kampfeld customs do some for me. I can get you a contact later today.

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/boltfluting0914_008.htm

Or just buy a new one from PTG. Pacific Tool and Gauge.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Or just buy a new one from PTG. Pacific Tool and Gauge.

The problem with that is you will have to install and time the bolt handle and reset the headspace. Karl is cheaper and probably faster.

I liked what I saw from Karl on the net. Butch if you have it handy good, if not I'll search for it. At the moment it is just the receiver being set up for barrel. Talked to PTG and well I can do the work on this bolt myself, just don't have a cnc machine for flutting of bolt.

Steve,
I put Karl's website address on my first post on this thread.
Butch

I have used Twisted Barrel a couple times

$60

One week turnaround

Yea, I seen that after I posted Butch...Thanks!
Bennett and Ted...Thank you also!

Found him...thanks Butch!

http://proprecisionrifles.com/

Bolt Fluter

It looks like you have already found what you are looking for but I thought I would share this. You don't need a CNC to do helical fluting. I do it on an old Cincinnati universal mill.

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Originally posted by h2oboy:
It looks like you have already found what you are looking for but I thought I would share this. You don't need a CNC to do helical fluting. I do it on an old Cincinnati universal mill.

Now you need to get rid of the Remington bolt handle. There are a few ways to do it on manual equip., but most of us don't see the need to search it out and pay for the equip. How many bolts can you get fluted for the cost of the old equip?

I like that looks good H2o.

Any mill will work. You just need a universal dividing head with a banjo to connect to one of your hand wheels. If you use sprocket cutters, convex or involute gear cutters you need to be able to angle the head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-2...&hash=item51cff8fa9f

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Originally posted by butchlambert:

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Originally posted by h2oboy:
It looks like you have already found what you are looking for but I thought I would share this. You don't need a CNC to do helical fluting. I do it on an old Cincinnati universal mill.

Now you need to get rid of the Remington bolt handle. There are a few ways to do it on manual equip., but most of us don't see the need to search it out and pay for the equip. How many bolts can you get fluted for the cost of the old equip?

I have an entire shop full of old equiptment as well as CNC's. I am a machinist and won't pay someone to do what I can do myself. Gives me an excuse to get a new toy. As far as the bolt handle, the customer wanted it left alone.

How many bolts could you have fluted at that cost. Saying your time and equip. time is worth nothing.
This was in regards to Speer's post. What I'm trying to point out is it is more cost effective to pay a good shop to do it. I can do a lot of things in my shop, but with my tooling straight flutes are my limit.
srtrax works in a large shop with a lot of capabilities, but sees the economics to pay to have a bolt fluted.

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
How many bolts could you have fluted at that cost. Saying your time and equip. time is worth nothing.
This was in regards to Speer's post. What I'm trying to point out is it is more cost effective to pay a good shop to do it. I can do a lot of things in my shop, but with my tooling straight flutes are my limit.
srtrax works in a large shop with a lot of capabilities, but sees the economics to pay to have a bolt fluted.

EGGZACKERY ! ! !

From a cost effective standpoint, it's always cheaper to let someone that's already setup for it, do it. On top of that he would probably do a better job of it than the first half dozen that you do yourself. You would probably have to do 15 or 20 units just to pay for a universal head with a banjo and get past the learning curve. Those dividing heads are not the same as the ones found in regular machine shops and gun shops as they have a PTO coming out the back to drive the gears. Most guys don't realize that.

But, all that said, it can be accomplished on and knee or horizontal mill if you wish to add a universal head. I can do it, and I'm pretty dumb, so probably most folk can.

I understand your point, however I think you missed mine. I paid 2k for the machine, it has every attachment available with it. I don't only flute bolts, I also helical and diamond flute barrels as well. The machine has already more than paid for itself.
If I only did a couple of bolts a year then yes, I would send then out. But that's not really my style, too much machinist in me I guess.

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Originally posted by h2oboy:

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Originally posted by butchlambert:

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Originally posted by h2oboy:
It looks like you have already found what you are looking for but I thought I would share this. You don't need a CNC to do helical fluting. I do it on an old Cincinnati universal mill.

Now you need to get rid of the Remington bolt handle. There are a few ways to do it on manual equip., but most of us don't see the need to search it out and pay for the equip. How many bolts can you get fluted for the cost of the old equip?

I have an entire shop full of old equiptment as well as CNC's. I am a machinist and won't pay someone to do what I can do myself. Gives me an excuse to get a new toy. As far as the bolt handle, the customer wanted it left alone.

Very nice work. While I like doing things myself as well, I do see Butch's point. Your customer is paying for the fluting, not you. I seriously doubt you are doing the work for free. If you send out the bolt to be fluted, you can concentrate on the other parts of the project, and deliver the final product quicker. Time is Money.

We have 2 top shelf Haas cabinet mills

Several sinker EDM one is CNC

Wire edm and the list goes on and on for equipment and tooling

For $60 twisted barrel still gets my work

Maybe you need to go back to the beginning of this thread and read what the OP asked. Steve didn't ask about your skill or equip. He just wanted to know where he could have it done. Steve has the knowledge and equip. available to do it also, but for one he knows his time and machinery are more valuable to him than fluting 1 bolt.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
We have 2 top shelf Haas cabinet mills

Several sinker EDM one is CNC

Wire edm and the list goes on and on for equipment and tooling

For $60 twisted barrel still gets my work

Ted, My post was directed to the waterboy, not you.

Seems I must be out to lunch here... No disrespect to anyone but I can flute a bolt and make money. If you choose to send it out, great. I simply do not, I have a very different mindset than most.

Evidently.

I can't cut helical flutes in a 700 bolt for $60

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I can't cut helical flutes in a 700 bolt for $60

I happen to be set up for it, so I can. That being said, I am not going to make an injection mold... That's not what I do.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
I can't cut helical flutes in a 700 bolt for $60

You would be surprised by how many people there are that rent space, buy tooling and try to work for $20 an hour Ted. The world is full of them. I see them every damned day. As soon as they go broke there are two more that pop up that figure that they can do it even cheaper with twice the quality. And the circle continues.

ADD NOTE: They are handy to have around though. I send them all the whiny, cheapskates that I don't want to work for. And I bounce around grinning like the evil bastard that I am every time I do it. It quite literally makes my whole week ! ! ! !

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
Maybe you need to go back to the beginning of this thread and read what the OP asked. Steve didn't ask about your skill or equip. He just wanted to know where he could have it done. Steve has the knowledge and equip. available to do it also, but for one he knows his time and machinery are more valuable to him than fluting 1 bolt.

Butch,
I am assuming this was directed to me. If not then please clarify this.

While I do not know Steve, I never questioned his ability to do the work himself. I posted a picture of my work in case there was an issue and he needed a back up plan. If that were to happen I would be happy to do so for him.

Dirk...I'm always looking for a backup plan, and it looks to me like you do good work. Butch is right, I only have the one bolt to be done. What kind of price do you get for fluting a 700 L.A. bolt per bolt you pictured?

Steve,

$65.00 + return shipping.

Thanks

I've already set the job up or I would have used an AR member here, price is right.
Question: How do you like the 3 position safety on the Remington? I've been eyeballing and thinking it over. Is it the one from PTG?

Steve,
I have 2 PT&G 3 pos safety. One is on my Remington clone Pierce receiver and the other is on my 40X rimfire. They both work just fine.

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Originally posted by srtrax:
I've already set the job up or I would have used an AR member here, price is right.
Question: How do you like the 3 position safety on the Remington? I've been eyeballing and thinking it over. Is it the one from PTG?

The one in the pic was made by Jim Wisner. They are extremely well made. I do not have any experience with PTG's but it sounds like they are good.

I milled the bolt handle on this Reminton of mine but had TB do the faux Ti flutes in the bolt

It's hard to see but the slot doesn't go all the way through the handle shank. When the handle is closed you can't see the slot. I prefer this over holes or through slots.

Don't be over dazzled by the rust blue on my old 700......that is genuine rust and very little blue

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Don't be over dazzled by the rust blue on my old 700......that is genuine rust and very little blue

Ted, That's funny!
Nice picture of your buck and that really cool Kudu!
Hope to see you and that T rusty ol' 30/06 this fall!

Ted... the flutes look good on ol' rusty.
Thanks guys for all the input!