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How do I know it's a Shilen?
06 September 2003, 12:57
PyrotekHow do I know it's a Shilen?
Got an unturned barrel blank supposed to be Shilen from a local custom gunshop.
It's chrome moly. There's some marks on one end of the barrel.
12 o'clock : 300
9 o'clock : C
3 o'clock : 308(bore)
6 o'clock : 12(twist)
And nothing else.
I remember seeing a photo of a barrel blank with "Shilen" and "XX"(grade) stamped, mine has got no "Shilen" stamped and it has 6 riflings. According to Brownell catalog, their contract barrel by Shilen has 8 riflings.
What am I getting?
06 September 2003, 13:05
Jim WhiteIf its a Shilen it will say so. That XX would indicate to me that you you have a Douglas airgauged barrel. Jim
06 September 2003, 13:22
PyrotekNo I don't have the xx barrel, I have seen a photo of a barrel blank with "shilen" and "xx" marked on it.
06 September 2003, 14:02
TC1I'm going by memory here, but if I remember correctly, The base of the barrel (chamber end) has a Shilen stamp on it. The stamp is bigger that the barrel end though, so you can only see part of the word "Shilen" on it. It will have the contour# on it and the rate of twist but I don't remember a bore diameter stamp anywhere on the barrel.
I just sold a .375 Shilen barrel to another AR member about 2 months ago. Check your PM, I'm sending you his email address. Nice fellow I bet he'll help.
Terry
06 September 2003, 14:33
CraftsmanJust checked some of the Shilen barrels I have in stock, they came direct from Shilen not Brownells.
It has Shilen in big letters, .257 (bore), 10(twist), C (chrome moly).
Another has Shilen in big letters, .257 (bore), 10 (twist, S (stainless steel), and XX which I beleive denotes it has been lapped.
They have no premium barrels as they are either match grade or select match grade.
All stainless barrels are lapped, the chrome moly barrels are not unless you specify and pay extra.
07 September 2003, 08:42
Pyrotekquote:
Originally posted by Craftsman:
It has Shilen in big letters, .257 (bore), 10(twist), C (chrome moly).
Craftsman, what's the orientation of the stamings?(6 o'clock, 3 o'clock, etc)
Mine is said to be bought wholesale, then smaller lots are bought by the shop owner, from whom I bought the single blank from. I wonder if it makes any difference on stampings.
07 September 2003, 15:00
CustomstoxPyrotech, I have 5 of them in my stash. Shilen is written at 12 0'clock on each one. Directly under Shilen is the bore, at 2 o'clock is C (chrome moly), at 4 is the contour, and at 6 o'clock is the twist. Mine all follow that and none of mine are lapped so I do not have any xx's.
08 September 2003, 00:17
Cold BoreEvery Shilen barrel that I've ever had had "Shilen" stamped on it.
I'd be leery of this one.
08 September 2003, 09:07
PyrotekI am going to ask the supplier on Monday.
What about riflings, do you guys get 6 riflings or 8? Mine is 6.
08 September 2003, 11:02
stepchild 2Pyrotec,
Not that it hasn't already been thoroughly covered, but I am looking at a Shilen blank, and it also says Shilen on it and XX , bore, twist,etc.
My guess is that it's not a Shilen. Mine also has 6 lands and grooves.
Give Shilen a call to remove all doubt,972-875-5318.
Stepchild
08 September 2003, 11:29
EterrySOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS TRYING TO PULL A FAST ONE HERE, EVERY SHILEN BARREL I HAVE EVER SEEN HAS THEIR NAME ON IT.....HOPE YOU KEPT YOUR RECIEPT..
GOOD LUCK AND GOOD SHOOTING,
ETERRY
10 September 2003, 15:06
MarkCan you tell any of this by looking at a barrel that is mounted on a receiver? I bought a 20 caliber barreled action also said to be a Shilen but can't see any markings on it.
10 September 2003, 17:20
<coyote control>I also have supposing a Shilen barrel in SS Select Match, no marking anywhere on barrel. This barrel was installed by a well know gunsmith and I also have my doubts.
Are the marking visible if installed on receiver?
10 September 2003, 17:48
jnrifleworks8 lands and grooves dosen't sound right. Could be wrong.
10 September 2003, 18:44
CustomstoxMark White,
The portioin where it is marked is on the end of the muzzle of the barrel. Not on the barrel surface but the area around the bore. It is cut off before the barrel is chambered.
11 September 2003, 00:54
triggerChic
When I had a Douglas barrel installed on my Mauser. The gunsmith cut a slice off the chamber end of the barrel ( with the markings ) and included this with the finished work. It clearly says Douglas XX, twist and caliber. I thought it was a nice touch to send it with the finished work. There is little doubt about the barrel maker, unless the slice is a fake. And if I suspected it was fake, I'm sure Douglas could conform this for me, given the slice.
If I had questions about the origin of marked barrel, I would contact the supposed manufacturer.