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H&R 1200/M12 and the Win 52D are thet the same?
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<jim owens>
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I asked this question on 2 rimfire forums and so far no one knows. Need help. I have a H&R M12 that I purchased from the CMP that I want to restock. I plan on purchasing a bench rest laminated stock from Richards Micro Fit, but they don't have any inletting information on H&R rifles, but they do have inletting on a Win 52D. The pictures of the Win 52D and the H&R 1200/M12 look the same, and the specs are the same. Win made it from 61 to 78 and H&R made it from 82 to 86. I called boath companies and neither one has a clue. I have 4 rifles with laminated stocks from Richards that I use at gun shows to draw attention to the rifle rests I sell. Half the questions asked are about the stocks and the other half about the rests. Web sites for boath www.rifle-stocks.com and www.nationalmatchriflerests.com. HELP Jim [Confused]
 
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<JBelk>
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jim---

I can't find any reference to that model in any of my parts books. I've never heard of it before.

The Winchester is a tubular receiver about an inch in diameter. Maybe somebody can measure one and let you know for sure.
 
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My 52 measures 1.22 wide and 7.557 long from the front of the reciever to the end of the tang.
 
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<jim owens>
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Dan. Thanks for the information on your 52. I measured mine and they are different. My receiver is 1.154 and the length is 6.9375. I will order the stock without inletting and do it myself on my milling machine. jim [Smile]
 
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This is from memory so may not be 100% accurate throughout (pardon pun, please). If there are any errors, I apologize in advance.

As I recall it, H&R brought out the M5200 in 1983 to fill the market gap left by discontinuance of the M52 Winchester. The designs are very similar, but the dimensions are somewhat different.

Ken Howell (then Editor of Rifle & Handloader magazines) wrote to H&R trying to get one so I could do a write-up of it for Rifle. However, by that time, the military had contracted for virtually all of the 5200 production, and assigned it their own internal number. We were unable to obtain one for trial.

The match rifle was discontinued by H&R for both civilian and military purchase in 1985. There were a few sporter models made and sold before the military got a lock on all the production, but the sporters were discontinued in 1983.

I have one of the recent CMP releases of these rifles, as do many of the local .22 match shooters. In the local outdoor rimfire matches (of which I am Match Director), the two most winning makes have been the M52 Winchester and the M5200 H&R. Close behind have been the recently released CMP Kimber heavy-barrel match rifles, and a variety of Anschutz.

Of my own personal rifles, my Anshutz M54.11-MS outshoots my H&R, and as well outshoots my Anschutz 1411, 1413, and 1811 rifles. However all .22s I am familiar with are so ammunition make and lot sensitive, it may just be that I haven't tried exactly the right ammo in the H&R and/or other Anschutz.

[ 03-26-2003, 02:10: Message edited by: Alberta Canuck ]
 
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<jim owens>
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Alberta Canuck Thanks for the information. No wonder they look alike. jim [Big Grin]
 
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