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Trigger bow differences
24 January 2013, 02:54
AllenBoselyTrigger bow differences
What are differences between Mil trigger bow & Oberndorf trigger bow?
Not the whole bottom metal assembly just the bow.
Other than the floor plate release in the Oberndorf bow.
Is the shape the same?
Could a Mil bow be grafted onto a bottom metal assembly?
To have an Oberndorf bow shape on a current mfg bottom metal.
Or would one have to find an Oberndorf bottom metal to graft on
to it?
Cheers, Allen
It's a Mauser thing, you wouldn't understand.
24 January 2013, 03:50
heavenknowsThe question is not precise enough.
There are countless mil Oberndorf made trigger bows.
I guess you have the commercial Oberndorf bottom metal in mind.
There are many commercial Oberndorf made Mauser rifles ( especially early ones , but a few produced in the thirties/Type A rifles ) provided with a trigger bow geometry that is found on military bottom metal.
Then there are the most often found commercial rifles with the larger bow in two configurations(one with the lever release and the other with the button in the trigger bow).
Both types with or without double set triggers.
The large trigger bow has an advantage over the small one , because it is easier to install and use a DST and wearing gloves.
Interestingly all the copies of Mauser bottom metal made after the war have the small bow contour of the Argentine military bottom metal with the exception of the magnum actions (at least the German productions and a few Americans.
So if you want to have the larger bow configuration you can forget "grafting" .
In the case you have a large bow you must have an commercial Oberndorf magazine box and grafting is no longer needed.
Maybe that someday, someone in the aftermarket scene will produce a real copy of the commercial
Oberndorf magazine box.
Let me know , when you hear of it .I would by a few.
24 January 2013, 04:11
AllenBoselyYes I should clarify, not large Oberndorf, but small Oberndorf,
as in the general shape of the PreWar Rigbys.
I was thinking the 1909 is more rounded than the ones
usually used on the Rigbys.
Cheers, Allen
It's a Mauser thing, you wouldn't understand.
24 January 2013, 04:48
Glen71Pictures?
24 January 2013, 12:03
ColoradoMattquote:
Originally posted by heavenknows:
The question is not precise enough.
There are countless mil Oberndorf made trigger bows.
I guess you have the commercial Oberndorf bottom metal in mind.
There are many commercial Oberndorf made Mauser rifles ( especially early ones , but a few produced in the thirties/Type A rifles ) provided with a trigger bow geometry that is found on military bottom metal.
Then there are the most often found commercial rifles with the larger bow in two configurations(one with the lever release and the other with the button in the trigger bow).
Both types with or without double set triggers.
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The large trigger bow has an advantage over the small one , because it is easier to install and use a DST and wearing gloves.
Interestingly all the copies of Mauser bottom metal made after the war have the small bow contour of the Argentine military bottom metal with the exception of the magnum actions (at least the German productions and a few Americans.
So if you want to have the larger bow configuration you can forget "grafting" .
In the case you have a large bow you must have an commercial Oberndorf magazine box and grafting is no longer needed.
Maybe that someday, someone in the aftermarket scene will produce a real copy of the commercial
Oberndorf magazine box.
Let me know , when you hear of it .I would by a few.
PME/James Wisner used to make them. Wish he still did. They were very nice. I like Wiebe's stuff a lot, but no Oberndorf guard bows, and until folks start beating down his door with cash in hand, he probably won't ever make any.
Matt
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24 January 2013, 20:24
Duane Wiebequote:
Originally posted by heavenknows:
The question is not precise enough.
There are countless mil Oberndorf made trigger bows.
I guess you have the commercial Oberndorf bottom metal in mind.
There are many commercial Oberndorf made Mauser rifles ( especially early ones , but a few produced in the thirties/Type A rifles ) provided with a trigger bow geometry that is found on military bottom metal.
Then there are the most often found commercial rifles with the larger bow in two configurations(one with the lever release and the other with the button in the trigger bow).
Both types with or without double set triggers.
The large trigger bow has an advantage over the small one , because it is easier to install and use a DST and wearing gloves.
Interestingly all the copies of Mauser bottom metal made after the war have the small bow contour of the Argentine military bottom metal with the exception of the magnum actions (at least the German productions and a few Americans.
So if you want to have the larger bow configuration you can forget "grafting" .
In the case you have a large bow you must have an commercial Oberndorf magazine box and grafting is no longer needed.
Maybe that someday, someone in the aftermarket scene will produce a real copy of the commercial
Oberndorf magazine box.
Let me know , when you hear of it .I would by a few.
With a proper sample and milnimum order of 30 units.....you got lt!
24 January 2013, 21:15
AllenBoselyHey, Duane, if we provided you a proper sample...
Could you make a run of Oberndorf Trigger bows to
retrofit to you bottom metal?
Ie... guys that have your bottom metal but would
graft on your new Oberndorf bow.
I think we all would want it straight off the CNC
machine so they could be sculpted after installing.
So there wouldn't be any hand finishing on your
end at least.
If so how many would you need for a run of them &
ball park price?
Depending on price some of us might buy more than needed
at the moment just to help make it doable
Matt said he would take two I would take at least one.
Cheers, Allen
It's a Mauser thing, you wouldn't understand.
25 January 2013, 02:05
AllenBoselyAnyone have a pic of the Blackburn Oberndorf bow?
Also how does it compare to an Oberndorf bow, similar
or real close or in name only?
Cheers, Allen
It's a Mauser thing, you wouldn't understand.