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First of all thanks to eveyone who was kind enough to give me some good ideas on how to improve my last project a Pre-64 M-70 9,3x62. Of course I couldn't do everything but even the stuff that wasn't to my taste was still good food for thought.

First thing I changed as probably the most commented on - my blocky forend tip. It still won't be perfect for everyone's taste but it is a little less blocky:




I also managed to get ahold of a Wisner bolt release, thanks to my freind Tom Mason:



Probably the most glaring error was a lack of a shelf on the loading port, now fixed:



I also reblued all of the screws and scope rings so that they would match. So heres a look at before and after.

Before:



and afer:



The other side before:



and after:




I'm still need to rub a few more coats of finish onto the tip cap and shelf but other than that I think I'm done and ready to hunt it. I'm not totally satisfied with a few things but that's why it's nice to have the next project ready.
Thanks again for everyone's advice and comments...........DJ


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Oddly enough, I didn;t notice the lack of "shelf" at the loading port. Something I usually home right in on. That must mean the rest was so well done, I was distracted?

I like the improvements, especially the tip. I'd say you can stop now and go get it dirty!




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OUTSTANDING!!!!!

Those few finishing touches took it right over the top. I cant believe you call yourself an amatuer. I have seen some work from the "pros" who would do well to take some lessons from you. Thanks for sharing the pics.


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Beautiful work...and the photography ain’t bad either! beer
 
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Damn! If I send you a chunk of wood can you make me one too?


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Fjold, only if you can "introduce" me to the young lady in your Avatar... Smiler Smiler.....DJ


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That is one handsome rifle. You really could turn pro but you'd have to trash-out your shop to look the part.

I guess selling it is out of the question?


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Those foreend tips are tricky to get round and look right.

Good work DJ , very nice! ! thumb beer

I agree, if you pile junk all over in your shop, people might come over waveing $1000 bills.
 
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Forrest, not totally but I'm sure it would have to be for more than it was worth (and enough to fund a few new projects).....Smiler Smiler.........DJ


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Very nice work. you should be proud. Bring on the next project, can't wait to see it!


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Looks fantastic! I wish I could make one as good as yours even before the improvements.

If it was mine the only thing left would be a nice set of iron sights.

Beautiful rifle!

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djpaintles!

Great looking rifle, well done!!

I´m from Sweden and I noticed the brand on your (brand new?) wooden work bench "Sjöbergs". That´s a Swedish bench in your shop my friend thumb

Again, great looking rifle!!


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djpaintles!

Thanks to your earlier feedback I shortened the tip on my current project.

I can remember. Did you do the cherking as well? If not who did? That is some beautiful work.


As usual just my $.02
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Now that the bench was mentioned, what kind of work bench is that, a wood workers bench?
 
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Ramrod, I did do the checkering. Here's a veiw of the stock after inletting and attaching the grip cap inlay stock and forend tip:




The workbench over at my buddies shop is indeed a Sjoberg, they are nice little woodworking benches for the money. He got on sale at Woodcraft I think. Right now my home (garage) shop is too crowded and cold to work in.... Frowner. Smiler Frowner......DJ


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Excellent! thumb



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DJ

I would say you are ready for the "big time". Can I get a copy of your brochure and price list?

Congratulations on a very beautiful rifle. cheers
 
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I did do the checkering


I'm very impressed.

Heck there might be hope for me after all. LOL


As usual just my $.02
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D,Humbarger, Thanks again for the swivel studs, I finally got them blued to match. I really like them on the rifle......................DJ


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dj,
Looks great. Using the drawer under the work table to put things away is a novel approach. I just leave everything on top where I can get to it faster. I found a very old slice of pizza on there the other night. It still was pretty good, just had to brush some of the metal shavings off.


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Using the drawer under the work table to put things away is a novel approach

I use mine to catch the sawdust. Makes finding the small stuff a lot easier. NOT!


As usual just my $.02
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DJ, it's STILL beautiful. I've got a request for you....or Chic, Bill, Jim Kobe. How about posting pics of your next stock in progress, from layout to finish? Jack Belk had done this before with a 6mm Rem M700 back in the old HA days. It was a great help...that old one pic worth a thousand words thing. What say, guys?

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I thought it looked great before and it looks even better now.

Good job!
 
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DJ,

Very nice looking rifle.

You might consider laying out the spacing on your checkering with automotive masking tape prior to the actual checkering. I use 1/8" and 1/4". That will show you when your checkering starts taking a hook at the border or if the geometry starts changing.


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Really beautiful, I don't see much of anything to improve upon.


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DJ, one word. BEAUTIFUL!

If I lived anywhere near you I'd drop by just to watch! I'd even bring refreshments! Nate
 
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Nice Job DJ!
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