I have a couple of synthetic stocks I want to paint. I'm wanting to use something with texture to enhance grip on the slick Kimber stocks. I really like the 'FleckStone' paints, however have heard it turns to mush when wet. I may try 'Firm Grip' epoxy, then apply a camo pattern over that with some flat colors. Anyone come up with a good solution?

Either urethane , polyester or Epoxy paints will fill the bill . There are several non slip grip additives in several grit sizes as well as colors which can either be applied under or in film coat .

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FleckStone is wretched crap for a stock finish. It will literally melt off, and it is far too thick for serious consideration.

For a home job, Krylon outdoor Texture Paint is fairly decent stuff. It will hold up about as well as any rattlecan finish, and it provides some grip.

i've always found that a good oil finish on a nicely figured piece of walnut worked best

butchloc; That was helpful !.

I thought I was the only one allowed to do things like that .

There is a product you could purchase called " Grip Tex " I believe it's manufactured under the trade name AWL Grip or EverCoat also makes it. . Go too a store or marine repair sales out fit and you'll find t there .

The reason I suggest mixable paints is you have way more latitude for color as well as drying times . Nothing wrong with Krylon paint it's good stuff . How ever it's in a spray can which limits what you can do with it severally limits . A light coat or two of the afore mentioned types of paint then Grip Tex to stick or mix in the second coat . Followed by your choice of top coat . Airplane Automotive Marine paint suppliers have Exactly what your looking for . Quality Durability and Beauty !.

I shot a fellows stock with a chameleon ( Color changing paint ) House of Kolors brand urethane . It's not what I would want , although it looked pretty cool viewed from different angles
Good Luck .

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Dr. K,

A nasty rumor is floating about that I may have painted a stock or two in my time.

The gentleman said that he had a couple of stocks to do. If that is indeed the case, then investing in two part paints, and the equipment to properly and safely apply them would be a foolhardy financial investment.

Typically, and quality two part finish is going to be sold by the gallon (maybe by the quart, but not likely). You then need catalyst, flattening base, and possibly an accelerant. Further, you need proper respiratory equipment, a good quality spray gun, a compressor capable of sufficient volume, a quality in line air filter/separator and a safe place to spray.

Of course, there is the learning curve that must be figured in to get a quality job with the new material and new spray equipment.

Call me crazy, but for a couple of stocks, it just isn't worth it.

Now, IME, the Krylon texture paints look fine and hold up relatively well (especially given the ease of application). They are designed for outdoor furniture, and resist wear well while being unaffected by moisture.

This may all be very well and true .

Two component paints are sold in pints and some times 1/2 pints as well !.

Most " Handy People " already have compressed air some even own spray guns maybe even a respirator perhaps a garage or even a work shop area to work in . Even if they don't 1/2 pint of materials aren't going to break the bank coupled with a Preval sprayer ( Self contained air charge with a removable glass screw jar underneath ) .Mix materials screw on spray away . Nice when additives need to be mixed in your finishes .

It's hard to " Open a Spray Can " and add Non slip grip texture , all the propellant leaks !. It's also very difficult to Spray Krylon or any other canned spray paint , then sprinkle grip texture then spray over it . In a nut shell any method one choses to use will suffice .

The difference is having it look like YOU did it or it came that way !. As I stated Krylon is decent material and never said anything to the contrary .

Besides Fact is not rumor I have sprayed more epoxy paint in one 10 hour day than you have in your entire life !. That's just a Fact !.


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Calm down boys, all is well. I used some 'Firm foot'. It's an epoxy paint with sand in it. Forrest paints mixes it up and puts it in a can. I used a black base coat, then a grey and white speckled top coat. Looks like granite. 2 of the 3 stocks turned out pretty nice. I ran outa paint before I got the 3rd one the way I wanted it. just have to get more paint. But it should be real durable and has plenty of grip. Thanks for the advice guys, now try and get along. . . . .

Use marine tex for the grip areas and you can get some KG stock kote for the stock. It dries hard in 80min and doesnt need hardener. Ive used KG paints for yrs and love them. I have some of the 2 part epoxy paints as well and the stock kote is just as strong. I got a sample when it first cam out and tried it myself. I painted a stock and some alum bars. I was able to hit it with a hammer and dent the metal w/o removing the paint. It works great for scopes as well.

DWright,
You say the stocks are synthetic. Does that mean injection molded plastic? If so, there are many types of plastic. Find out what type of plastic it is and apply a primer designed for that particular type of plastic before painting with anything. It is usually available from an automotive paint supplier. There are also field tests you can perform to determine which type of polymer it is. It's been several years since I've messed with plastic type-specific tests so I can't help you more than that, but an automotive paint supplier can help you.

If the stock is fiberglass, normal automotive primer will suffice.

FleckStone is fine for a stock finish of a synthetic stock, but it is water soluable, so you must apply a coat or two of clear polyurethane for protection. The FleckStone is rough enough to give a good grip on the stock without checkering, even after coating with clear polyurethane. If the finish chips through rough usage, you can spray some FleckStone paint onto a piece of cardboard and use the frayed end of a book match to touch up. Just remember to also touch up with clear polyurethane.

when painting a stock, like a plastic tupperware remington factory stock, what about painting the barrel and scope?

now i know most people would cringe at this, but for a rifle to be hunted with and not appreciated for its beauty, would it hurt anything?
stainless rifle, really no need to paint the black scope. maybe paint just the rifle barrel in the same pattern as the stock. will this damage anything? will the paint stick?

Dr. K, there are few things more revolting than misplaced arrogance flavored with sarcastic condescension. Congratulations on a job well done.

Congratulations also on having sprayed a lot of epoxy paint. That may impress some people, but it takes more than that to impress me. All it tells me is that you have clearly breathed in far too many fumes in your day.

Regardless of how much epoxy paint you have prayed in your life, I can 100% assure you that I have painted more stocks in the past week than you have painted in your entire life. Since painting stocks is the subject of this thread, it seems logical that specific experience trumps theory.

Now, on to your "argument"

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Originally posted by Dr.K:


Most " Handy People " already have compressed air some even own spray guns maybe even a respirator perhaps a garage or even a work shop area to work in .

what do you think the odds are that a person possessing the correct equipment, as well as the knowledge and skill to use it, would come on an internet message board to ask advice on painting? I'd venture that those odds are fairly low. food for thought...........

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Originally posted by Dr.K:

It's hard to " Open a Spray Can " and add Non slip grip texture , all the propellant leaks !. It's also very difficult to Spray Krylon or any other canned spray paint , then sprinkle grip texture then spray over it . In a nut shell any method one choses to use will suffice .

apparently you did not ready my post, and clearly you have no experience at all with Krylon Texture paint. Krylon Texture is not their normal paint. It comes out of the can with texture, thus there is no need to add any sort of texture. Further, the paint itself is a bit different than most rattlecan paints, as it comes out very flat and resists wear and moisture very well. Again, it is deigned for outdoor furniture. By definition, outdoor furniture is exposed to the elements, and gets used.

Getting back to mixed in textures, I have yet to see one that impresses me in the least. Adding textures results invariably in a finish much like sandpaper. To properly add a texture, you must have the ability to build the texture using the same material used for the base coat. It takes a specific application procedure to accomplish this.

The fact that each and every custom synthetic stock maker uses the exact same material and application process as I do somewhat validates the method, don't you think?

I sprayed 3 of my stocks with the 'Firm foot' epoxy paint from standard spray cans. I used 3 different colors for each stock. Light coats of each gave a granite stone appearance. Came out looking great, good traction with the sand texture, and durability of the epoxy. Gives me more ideas; think I can have some fun with this stuff. Now think I'll try a camo design.

Just to make sure everyone knows that I am not a stock painting expert, nor have I played one on TV. However, I have painted a couple Kimber Montana stocks with spatter paint that I bought an auto supply store. They both turned out very nice and the finish is bullet proof; the texture provides a great non-slip surface. I tried to purposely scratch the surface while hunting and was unsuccessful. They use it for trunks and engine compartments. I am sure there may be more appropriate finishes, but painting a plastic stock is not rocket science. Lou

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Dr. K, there are few things more revolting than misplaced arrogance flavored with sarcastic condescension. Congratulations on a job well done.

Congratulations also on having sprayed a lot of epoxy paint. That may impress some people, but it takes more than that to impress me. All it tells me is that you have clearly breathed in far too many fumes in your day.

Thank You I'll accept that as a compliment !.

CasII; As a professional stock painter I'm some what surprised you use spray can paints !??.

As Posted by your own hand :

Typically, and quality two part finish is going to be sold by the gallon (maybe by the quart, but not likely). You then need catalyst, flattening base, and possibly an accelerant. Further, you need proper respiratory equipment, a good quality spray gun, a compressor capable of sufficient volume, a quality in line air filter/separator and a safe place to spray.

If you were ANY TYPE of painter , you would have known the above statements is PURE BS !.

I not only have sprayed more single as well as plural urethane an Epoxy paints !, I worked for the largest company in the WORLD formulating them !.

I also used PAR suits , but again you wouldn't know anything about that !.

As Krylon must be the ONLY MATERIAL WHICH WORKS !.

Will the rest of you Please Excuse my ignorance as obviously my experience and opinions don't count !.


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