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Rogaurd for a custom rifle finish
10 December 2005, 10:45
333_OKHRogaurd for a custom rifle finish
Has anyone used Rogaurd or NP3 for a custom rifle finish?
I recently viewed one in Rogaurd that looked really nice from the photos, but I would love to hear everyone's opinions?
333
10 December 2005, 11:52
Rick 0311I have three rifles done in Rogard with the bolts and internal’s in NP3. I really like it.
I also had a bunch of M14 magazines coated in NP3 and they are really nice and smooth working.
10 December 2005, 21:50
333_OKHCan we all bother you for a few pictures? I would live to see some of it on another gun.
10 December 2005, 22:19
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 333_OKH:
Can we all bother you for a few pictures? I would live to see some of it on another gun.
I answered your email on this...don’t have any pictures and don’t have a digital camera. As I said in the email, Rogard/NP3 and “classic†styled rifles should pick other dance partners, IMO.
Rogard/NP3 is a really durable and tough finish but it does not look like traditional bluing by any stretch of the imagination.
11 December 2005, 22:21
333_OKHLooks like I am barking up the wrong tree. I want a durable black finish that doesnt look like the ones on my duck guns. I want is semi-matte and durable for extended stints in high humidity weather and possible rain and snow.
12 December 2005, 00:18
FlyingAce333,
I was doing some research on this finish after reading your first post, and I came across these three pictures from a different discussion board.
After 1 month of regular carry (1,750 rounds)
After 8 months of regular carry (4,500 rounds)
After 3 years of regular carry (11,482 rounds)
They URL to the whole topic can be found here (
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=33130)
Hope this helps.
Jim Mace
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12 December 2005, 00:37
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 333_OKH:
Looks like I am barking up the wrong tree. I want a durable black finish that doesnt look like the ones on my duck guns. I want is semi-matte and durable for extended stints in high humidity weather and possible rain and snow.
For that, Rogard is great. What you described to me was a classic styled english rifle with a highly figured wooden stock. If you don’t care about keeping the “classic†look then Rogard would be perfect.
12 December 2005, 21:45
1894mk2Wow that's good. I allways discounted these finishes as being fragile.....
Now the bad news I live in the UK. Is it a patented process, any UK coaters of similar quality?
28 January 2006, 09:15
333_OKHStill interested in ideas. I have a rifle that has suffered at the hands of weather a lot, but I do not want a paint like finish, nor do I want nickel or even all stainless. What to treat with? Armoloy TDC ????
We are over 120 inches or rain this year for one of the hunting areas I go to for wild boars!
28 January 2006, 16:50
drm-hp333
I have Used the industrial finish of Black Oxide on several rifles. Black Oxide is what you will find coating gears, grade 5 or better steel bolts, ect. If you polish the parts then treat, they will shine. If you lightly glass bead it will be a pleasing mat finish. I have done several utility (backup) rifles in this fashion and been very pleased with the results. That being said, I still believe rust blueing on a custom is the correct way to go. Just my opinion for what it's worth.
Doug
28 January 2006, 17:44
fireball168I just had a 700 receiver and floorplate metal "Rogarded".
The finish was a little glossier on the steel parts than what I had expected, and true to their word - the stuff only measures between .0005 and .0007 thick.
The triggerguard/floorplate came out more like the finish that I was expecting, a dull matte finish.
Turn around time was three weeks, and this was over the holidays. If I get a chance later, I'll take a picture.
I've used the Duracoats and KG coats in the past, and haven't been pleased with their durability. So far, I haven't been able to damage this finish(even trying in non-conspicuous areas).
28 January 2006, 20:59
333_OKHI would love to see pictures of it. I am hoping for a matte to semi gloss finish for my rifle, but I want to protect it too.
I am very interested in this Armoloy, but would prefer a black finish.
29 January 2006, 03:34
Jeff Alexanderquote:
Originally posted by 333_OKH:
Has anyone used Rogaurd or NP3 for a custom rifle finish?
I recently viewed one in Rogaurd that looked really nice from the photos, but I would love to hear everyone's opinions?
333
I have had Rogard/NP3 applied to a ULA 300WSM. PM me with your email address and I can shoot you off some photos.
Jeff
29 January 2006, 06:57
333_OKHPM Sent
30 January 2006, 00:10
Tex21333,
Why not get a time-tested slow rust blue done? I'm told that if you keep the finish oiled, it'll last forever.
Plus it will look classy with that classic stock.
Just my $.02...
Jason
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
30 January 2006, 00:25
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by Tex21:
333,
Why not get a time-tested slow rust blue done? I'm told that if you keep the finish oiled, it'll last forever.
Plus it will look classy with that classic stock.
Just my $.02...
I agree. Traditionally blued rifles that are well maintained will last for a long time. If you’re using your rifle in conditions that will attack the metal that much it will also be attacking your beautiful wooden stock.
Rogard is great stuff, and I have it on several rifles (all with McMillan stocks), but it does not give the same appearance as traditional bluing. If “traditional†appearance is a factor then I would not suggest its use.