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28 May 2022, 09:02
Rolland
What to do with an Arisaka 99 action
I have a complete action and need some idea what to do with it (ya I know build a rifle) but what caliber. Since it is not a Mauser it looks like the possibilities are endless. Does the lower tang get shortened or inletted into the pistol grip. As you can tell I have never used this action before.
So pictures would be helpful besides you can show off your work as well as helping me.


Never rode a bull, but have shot some.

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28 May 2022, 12:14
yumastepside
Email sent.

Roger
28 May 2022, 19:36
dpcd
Done them; last one I did was a 308 about 2 years ago.
Throw all the tangs away; you don't need them.
Barreling is like a Rem 700 on steroids; the bolt head extends 2/3rds of the way into the barrel shank.
Super strong; PO Ackley proved you can't blow them up. I tried once on one my friend found in a trash dump in 1968; we just blew primers.
Cartridge? literally anything, but if you want it to fit the bolt face as is, and feed, then pick something appropriate.
It would be more informative if Rog would post his thoughts here.
28 May 2022, 19:59
yumastepside
Pretty much what Tom said, read what everyone has posted on my thread....same horse, different colour

Roger
28 May 2022, 23:01
TCLouis
Many complain about the cock on closing feature, but I think I have actually grown to prefer it OVER cock on opening actions.
Either is no big deal unless one chooses to make it one.



Don't limit your challenges . . .
Challenge your limits


29 May 2022, 01:02
dpcd
I tell everyone: Cock on closing ain't broken!
It actually was done for a valid reason; when it was developed it's purpose was to place all the opening effort on primary extraction only; saving the cocking effort for another time. Because of the early brass cases would sometimes tend to stick, also the shooter might be in dirty conditions. Hence the British Enfield series including the #3s, were all cock on closing.
Work fine as is.
(What is a #3 Enfield? Not a Lee. It is the P14)
29 May 2022, 04:37
yumastepside
Some tang ideas I "borrowed" from the interweb...





Roger
29 May 2022, 05:09
Rolland
Does anyone know how well the 9.3 x 62 would fit in the type 99 magazine box?


Never rode a bull, but have shot some.

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29 May 2022, 05:21
yumastepside
I think the mag box would have to be at least 3.4" inside.
Don't know what length an M99 box is...if too short, maybe go with 9.3x57...you could stoke it up pretty well in that action tu2

Roger
29 May 2022, 07:40
dpcd
Definitely throw the tangs in the trash; not needed and look goofy.
No a 9.3x62 won't fit.
02 June 2022, 01:57
rcraig
quote:
Originally posted by Rolland:
Does anyone know how well the 9.3 x 62 would fit in the type 99 magazine box?


OAL of the 7.7x58 was 3.13" .
02 June 2022, 17:29
theback40
9.3x57 I even know a guy with the reamer!
02 June 2022, 19:08
dpcd
Me too!
02 June 2022, 19:27
Hipshoot
dpcd reamed my 9.3x57 into a 9.3x62.

You can have my old chamber if you want! Roll Eyes

Hip
02 June 2022, 20:00
theback40
When I was a younger fellow, we all had a saying.
If you saw an ugly woman, you would tell your buddy " I wouldnt fu-k her with your dick".
About the same with your old chamber isnt it?
02 June 2022, 22:41
rcraig
quote:
Originally posted by theback40:
When I was a younger fellow, we all had a saying.
If you saw an ugly woman, you would tell your buddy " I wouldnt fu-k her with your dick".
About the same with your old chamber isnt it?


Sloppy seconds.
03 June 2022, 02:50
Rolland
hipshoot
sorry but I will have to decline on the old chamber. Have to go along with what Tony so eloquently explained. old


Never rode a bull, but have shot some.

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03 June 2022, 04:22
Hipshoot
Just figured I'd be nice and make the offer! Big Grin

Hip
03 June 2022, 04:35
theback40
I think it would sell on ebay, Hipshoot.
03 June 2022, 07:12
SlamFire
Sink about $2,000 into the project. At the end of it, someone will be sure to offer you $500.00 for the thing.

The thing is, the economic rationale decision is to spend far less, say, buy a Winchester M70 Supergrade, $1,300, https://www.budsgunshop.com/pr...+1+grade+iv+v+walnut or an Winchester M70 extreme weather $1,100, https://www.budsgunshop.com/pr...+1+grade+iv+v+walnut

And you have a modern rifle, made out of modern materials, and it is a known item, unlike some odd ball wartime action that only a few know about. Be a lot less money, and you will get a better resale value.

With a modern rifle you won't have the romance of owning a historic piece of scrap iron. But, romance, and $1.50 will buy a cup of coffee.
03 June 2022, 11:47
yumastepside
Don't you love it when some ..... says just buy a new gun, don't muck around with that old crap....also we are generally not interested in resale value, that's not why we build them.

We are looking for information, not alternatives or an easy way out.

Sorry, one of my pet peeves....carry on.

Roger
03 June 2022, 14:22
metal
I don’t know why the moderator doesn’t punt him.
Just a shit stirring troll.
03 June 2022, 15:49
p dog shooter
Makes far more sense to buy a new modern rifle.

When one can buy it for about the price of a good barrel.

Unless you can't because of some stupid law.

But who never said gun cranks work with common sense.
03 June 2022, 18:10
dpcd
Please don't feed SF. Like trolls, if you don't feed them, they will stay under the bridge where they belong. Nothing useful or constructive to offer, talking strictly about bridge trolls of course.
And buying new rifles has NOTHING to do with building projects. Anyone can buy a rifle.
03 June 2022, 18:31
SlamFire
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Please don't feed SF. Like trolls, if you don't feed them, they will stay under the bridge where they belong. Nothing useful or constructive to offer, talking strictly about bridge trolls of course.
And buying new rifles has NOTHING to do with building projects. Anyone can buy a rifle.


Do you shoot your rifles, or do you make love to them?

And you are the one selling the sporterizing, because you make money doing that. Well, a fool and his money are soon parted.

Chopping up old military actions and converting them to sporters was and is always cost prohibitive, and that, in the long run, is your doom. You probably have a closet full of old actions you paid $70.00 for, and you are hoping to sell all of them for $300.00 and receive the thousands to build them into a full rifle. So you are selling the dream. Phooey on dreams.

There is a market for all original, all complete military bolt actions, they are selling very well. Sporterized military actions, put a lot of money in, have very little value out. Might as well as buy crypto currencies and lotto tickets, they could pay off.

I think the smart thing to do with an Arisaka action, is sell it for parts. There are always owners of all original rifles looking for parts.
03 June 2022, 18:39
theback40
Rolland does his own work, and very well I might add.
There is the other part, some might not know.
If Rolland isn't kept busy, he gets into mischief,
you know, the whole idle hands thing. Wink
03 June 2022, 18:42
theback40
When ever I talk to dpcd on the phone, I hear one of those money counters whirring in the background. He explains, he just finished another mauser project for the unsuspecting.
04 June 2022, 03:05
Rolland
I thinking perhaps 35 Whelen might work, since I don't have one Big Grin


Never rode a bull, but have shot some.

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04 June 2022, 04:56
dpcd
Glad you asked; no I am not a shooter; rarely shoot rifles. Maybe once a year or so. I don't like noise.
And, Yes I do have a room full of those old military Mausers. I have every variation of Kar98K made, including the VK98s. Only good thing they are for is busting them down for actions and throw all those nazi marked stocks in the trash. No one wants those.
As for 35 Whelen; mag is too short. 358 win.
Good thing about Jap actions; you can't blow them up no matter how stupid you are at reloading, unlike Mausers, which will come apart with starting loads.
04 June 2022, 05:17
yumastepside
....there is a definite smell of sarcasm in the air... moon

Roger
04 June 2022, 07:59
dpcd
I'm not sure what it is that smells here....
04 June 2022, 18:47
theback40
It's S.F. you guys can smell.
06 June 2022, 06:47
montea6b
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Definitely throw the tangs in the trash; not needed and look goofy.


Unless you are paying a custom metalsmith to add tangs, then they look great! Wink
06 June 2022, 22:21
dpcd
Not to me..... I would not fit them for any amount because the end result looks like an Arisaka!
Their only purpose is to reinforce the stock during a vertical butt stroke; which I try to avoid whilst hunting.
06 June 2022, 23:44
richj
I gave this away many years ago.




Still have the bottom parts.


07 June 2022, 02:36
dpcd
99 Type with intact Mum. Collectors now want those.....
07 June 2022, 04:45
metal
I don’t know Arisakas, but is that the gas port on top?
When you put the scope base over it you should add another one maybe?
07 June 2022, 05:18
yumastepside
Some drill a vent hole in the side of the scope base

Roger
07 June 2022, 06:43
dpcd
No need to do anything; how many rifles have gas escape holes?
07 June 2022, 07:07
metal
quote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
Some drill a vent hole in the side of the scope base

Roger

Good move.