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I have one rechambered to 35 Whelen and the cleaning rod trick isn’t working for me. Thanks. Lee | ||
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Probably one in 16; you need a tight fitting patch. It will work. Make it turn only 1/2 turn. Over and over. I put a piece of masking tape, flat, on the top of the rod. Push it further in the bore (or pull it out), and measure when the tape goes 1/2 turn, or one turn. Why does it matter? How does it shoot, is the only important thing. | |||
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I’m wondering what bullet weight to get. | |||
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It's not just weight, it's really more about the length which is driven by shape and construction and at what velocity the bullet is being driven at. 250 grain round nose cup and core is very different than 250 grain monometal spitzer. But I did some quick calculations - a 250 grn cup and cor spitzer driven at 2400 fps will be stable in 1:16 twist. That is the common twist for the 35 remington. Given this probably not your long range rifle. You could easily us the speer 220 fp if they still make it. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Since that's a rebarrel or a rebore, it's what it is. Use a cleaning rod with a ball bearing handle Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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I like to hold the rod in my hands, feeling it turn; if you rely on the bearings in the handle, you can't feel if the rod is turning uniformly or not; this process can unscrew your patch jag, and you won't get a good reading. Also, most of my ball bearing rods have the handles jammed up anyway! Also, not a rebarrel/rebore; he said it was originally a 35 Remington that was rechambered. So, original barrel/new chamber. | |||
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afaik the model 30 was offered in one caliber only: 30:06 .. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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Nope and if it had been left in it's original 35 Remington chambering, it was a very rare rifle. They were made in about 6 different calibers, from memory, like 257, 30 rem, 35 rem, maybe 270. Yes the first ones were in 30-06. | |||
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The Model 8 Remington in 35 Remington was made before the Model 30 so why would Remington change the twist from 16 which both the Model 8 and 81 had? | |||
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They probably wouldn't. When I see these posts, I take them as a challenge. I have spent the last 2 days googling the question but can't find a definitive or authoritative answer, Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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It seems to me that Remington often opts for twists that are too slow for those who like to load heavy/long bullets. | |||
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Well in this case, assuming it was one in 16, pretty standard for a 35 Remington, it was spot on for the 200 grain bullets used then, and now. | |||
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I have an original M30 in .35 Rem. I thought about having it rechambered to the Whelen for a moose hunt years back but the 1:16 twist wasn't ideal for 250g. and I didn't want to modify the box. I ended up reboring a M30 30.06 in 1:14, shot well. | |||
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Well hey- thanks. | |||
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wasn't rem classic in 35 whelen 1-16 twist? | |||
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The Rem 7600 pumps in 35 Whelen also have a 1 in 16” twist. Rem factory ammo loaded with 250gr pills should work fine in your rifle. | |||
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It was also made in 7x57, I almost bought one at a gunshow, but was waiting until the last day to get a better price, it sold!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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