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Burgess/Echols,, .416 Rem Mag at SCI
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This rifle was at Hallowell's and someone posted here about 10 months ago with a link.
D'Arcy and I both had private E-mails about it. The buyer wanted it up-graded with the same auxiliary sight set up as I did on the others, I plotted a way to accomplish this, he then purchased it, I up graded, and this rifle will be in D'Arcy's booth at the SCI Convention. The booth # 's are 706 and 708 and those interested will be able to look it over really close. D'Arcy says that you might even get to touch it!
He also indicated that this had been hunted and the stock shows that it has been out of the Gun Safe and traipsed the field. Smiler


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Posts: 199 | Location: Kalispell MT. | Registered: 01 November 2002Reply With Quote
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I had to go to backup of old system to find the pics but they were there.





In the interest of space and loading time I'll just link the rest. these were all from Hallowel's sight but I renamed to make easier with my webserver.
Burgess-Echols rght. sd. close
Burgess-Echols frt. sling stud
Burgess-Echols lft. sd. QR rings
Burgess-Echols rght. sd. w/scope
Burgess-Echols lft. sd. close

Systeme98 What kind of backup aux. sight system did the owner have you make? clamp on or pop up peep? Or barrel mounted sights?

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Absolutely beautiful.

Isn't this the rifle called the Absolute Enfield?

Fantastic, thank you for sharing.


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Ultimate Enfield, sorry.

Don't have my full quota of coffee this morning. Did you use a Wisner/LaPour safety shroud or one of your own design?

Thanks in advance.


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I still can't understand why the origional owner would want to sell it at Hallowell's in the first place. I'd keep it! Maybe their goal in life is to have many custom rifles built and then sell them for pennies on the dollar so more people can enjoy some of the finest rifles available anywhere. It seems Hallowell's has many custom rifles for sale at really low prices.
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That .416 Rem. is one rifle that I sometimes kick myself for not buying while it was still available. Getting a set of open sights installed on that beauty was a good decision on the part of the new owner, and I'm sure the results are fantastic.

I don't know if D'Arcy has made a firm decision on this, but he may just have one of my 'Legends' in .338 Win. Mag., complete with brown stock paint, red Pachmayr pad, plus custom triggerguard, floorplate, and built-up & checkered bolt release from System 98 himself on display at his booth as well.

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I still can't understand why the origional owner would want to sell it at Hallowell's in the first place.


Very true. This is a really beautiful rifle and it would make sense for someone to give to their children when they don't need it.

Congratulations Systeme 98 and Darcy Echols. Thank you for sharing your masterpiece with us.


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All,

Here is a link to a thread that I posted a while back with photos of the Third Ultimate Enfield rifle. At first I thought that it was thr same rifle, but I don't think so after looking back at it.

They're both beautiful, though.

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I look at my (self built) Enfield....and it's a nice piece...a .375 H&H.... and then look at the one pictured above..... Smiler
It's so good to have someone setting the standard of excellence and craftsmanship because without these masters.....folks like me would have nothing to look up to...
Congrats folks.....that's a gorgeous piece!!!


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Thanks for the link to the 3UE, I needed to get the posts saved for later reference.

The quick give away on the difference is that 3UE has the very slick folding front site that is elevation adjustable and the rear folding peep that has the windage adjustments. Maybe the same setup this person had done on their 416? And I think that 3UE was in 416 Rigby wasn't it?

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Posted by Gunmaker:
"It seems Hallowells' has many custom rifles for sale at really low prices."

Here's another:
http://www.hallowellco.com/gary_goudy%20375.htm


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That is supposed to have a deposit on it because a mate of mine phoned to buy it last Monday. Some existing client of Hallowels.

There is real good looking 338 there of about $3800US

http://www.hallowellco.com/dale_goens_win70%201128.htm
 
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That rifle is owned by a friend of mine. I sold him the 3x Leupold you see in the photos.
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https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=518103&f=9411043&m=17110094&r=37110094#37110094 to a thread that I posted a while back with photos of the Third Ultimate Enfield rifle. At first I thought that it was thr same rifle, but I don't think so after looking back at it.

They're both beautiful, though.

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JohnS,

Great to see you here. It's been a while. Smiler

I am really looking foward to having a look at this rifle at the SCI convention. Fantastic metal work and a really beautiful stock.

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I must say that the one thing that has struck me about mssrs Burgess and Echols is their perfect metalwork. The lines appear perfectly sharp and clean.

Maybe one of these days...


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If I had been right handed, I would have bought this rifle. What a bargain! As Allen says, open sights make perfect sense on this rifle. Especially with the rings it wears.

As an aside, does anyone know where a set of Burgess rings might be collecting dust? I'm interested in a set.

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Dave,
Long time my friend! Hope all is well your way. I show up from time to time...when I have time!
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JohnS,

Great to see you here. It's been a while. Smiler

I am really looking foward to having a look at this rifle at the SCI convention. Fantastic metal work and a really beautiful stock.

Regards,
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I like the way the bolt handle looks, very unique.
However, I think the red recoil pad looks disgusting, and the utilitarian-style rings look a bit out of place also.
The checkering looks good too.

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Tom makes those detachable scope rings himself, right in his own shop in Kalispel, as well as the bottometal and other custom parts. I have those same Burgess rings on my Echols-built .375 H&H, and I have a couple more sets down at D'Arcy's place reserved for a custom .416 Rigby he's going to build for me on a magnum Mauser action. To be honest, Tom's detachable rings are in a league all their own. Talley's or Warne's aren't even close to the same design or quality. They have no counterpart -- only a sort of reasonable visual approximation.

Very, very few craftsmen could come up with a rifle to equal this Burgess/Echols Enfield .416 Rem. There are guys who THINK they can, and they certainly want everyone else to believe they can, but the real players are few and very far between.........

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Shopcart, have you figured out how to open the bolt face on a model 70 yet?

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I like the way the bolt handle looks, very unique.
However, I think the red recoil pad looks disgusting, and the utilitarian-style rings look a bit out of place also.
The checkering looks good too.

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The mounts are the highlight, especially the square bridges that look as if they are part of the action.

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I like the way the bolt handle looks, very unique.
However, I think the red recoil pad looks disgusting, and the utilitarian-style rings look a bit out of place also.
The checkering looks good too.

-Spencer


Shoppingcart,

Did you ever see a rifle like this, up close?
(Taste is everything) not that I would dare to say you have bad taste, maybe bad eyes.

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Mr. Burgess and Mr. Echols

Only one word, OUTSTANDING.

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I got to thinking some more and remembered that I had written to Mr. Burgess back when the Tom & Jerry rifle was posted and asked about the front site. He sent me some pics of how one is installed. I wrote and asked him if I could post them here, he said it was ok and even sent me a few more. some show the aperture site installation on this rifle and then since somebody mentione dthe bolt handle he sent a couple of the jig used for that.





I think that the round thing in the lapping picture is the abrasive compound?? I'll post the rest later. Enjoy!

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how about some more.





Paul, I think that the jigs are the trick to getting the metal work perfect.

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Red, those photos tell a very big story indeed about the work and genius of Tom Burgess.

Beautiful stuff!

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Dago Red,

I could look at construction pics from that 3UE all day. I really enjoy seeing the step by step process as well as the skill that the right craftsman can bring to a project such as this.

Perhaps, Mr. Burgess has more pics from this or other projects he could post? I'd would love to see a full battery of photos taking us through the building process. That would indeed be an education! Cool

Mr Burgess....? Smiler

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