HELLO: I HAVE CUSTOMIZED MODEL 7 ACTION WITH 22' SHILEN AND THUMBHOLE STOCK. THE LOADS IT LIKES THE BEST ARE ONES THAT RUN 2.880 AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. PROBLEM IS, THEY WON'T FIT IN THE MAGAZINE UNTIL 2.8300 AND THIS WON'T GROUP NEARLY AS WELL ON MOST BULLET LOADS. IF I LOAD THEM LONGER AND FEED 1 SHELL AT A TIME THEY WILL PRINT HOLE ON TOP OF HOLE. WHAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT MESSING THE RIFLE UP? THANKS FOR THE REPLY'S.

Try a bullet with a different ogive. A bullet that is more rounded at the tip will put it closer to the lands with a shorter overall length.

It's also easier to read messages if you don't use all caps, if possible.

I haven't looked close at a Model 7 but, see if there is space at the rear of the magazine cutout that would allow a Model 700 SA magazine box to be installed. If so, it shouldn't be too much of a job to mill the magazine well back and cut the the bolt stop back to allow the bolt some more rearward travel. The only thing I can think of offhand to queer this whole idea is if the Model 7 trigger sits too far forward like the parent receiver, the 600 Mohawk.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
Try a bullet with a different ogive. A bullet that is more rounded at the tip will put it closer to the lands with a shorter overall length.

It's also easier to read messages if you don't use all caps, if possible.

The Model Seven and the short Model 700 mag boxes are the same length. Nothing to gain there. I know the short 700 mag box can be stretched to the rear, I doubt a Model Seven can be done as the trigger is closer to the box than the short 700.

Have a 'smith cut the barrel off by .10 and rechamber. You can also specify that the throat not be cut full depth. For the life of me, I don't understand why manufacturers don't make magazines long enough to accept cartridges seated to touch the lands. Guess too many of us have bought into the short actions for handling.

My short Rem 700 mag box will allow a 2.900 OAL after lengthening.I use a a wild cat 7mm-08 SSAI
it uses a longer neck than the regular 7mm-08Ai.

I actually modified a long Rem mag box and rebend the rear corners and used the long follower spring.

The chamber and throat allows me to load 10 thou into the lands with most common bullets without infringing on the case volume.

I shoot mostly 139 and 140 gr bullets and for big stuff the 175gr Seni pointed bullets.This rifle is a fabulous shooter with an H-S Precision barrel and stock. I toke some big plains game in Africa with this set up.

What is so good about it, it is one of a kind and it is a wild cat of my own design. No it is not a magnum. SS stands for Sore shoulder.

Fred M.

Get a single shot follower.

The .308, .358, 7-08, .260 and yes even the .243 would come out of the SO-SO category and becme great cartridges if they had longer necks and were used in sufficiantly long actions instead of the silly shorts.

Outrage! Outrage ! We don't need no stiking outrage. roger

Do your bullets have exposed lead tips?It may sound silly,but I have seen people file the lead tips down to allow the rounds to fit the magazine.You will alter the ballistic co-efficient slightly but it is a simple solution that will work.After all you can still practise with the full length rounds and need only file down enough for hunting.

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Originally posted by Snider700:
HELLO: I HAVE CUSTOMIZED MODEL 7 ACTION WITH 22' SHILEN AND THUMBHOLE STOCK. THE LOADS IT LIKES THE BEST ARE ONES THAT RUN 2.880 AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. PROBLEM IS, THEY WON'T FIT IN THE MAGAZINE UNTIL 2.8300 AND THIS WON'T GROUP NEARLY AS WELL ON MOST BULLET LOADS. IF I LOAD THEM LONGER AND FEED 1 SHELL AT A TIME THEY WILL PRINT HOLE ON TOP OF HOLE. WHAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT MESSING THE RIFLE UP? THANKS FOR THE REPLY'S.

Somebody out there manufactures a slightly longer magazine box for the Model 7. Ijust can't recall who it is at the moment.


Jordan

Stubble Jumper.
Good point about lead point they also get hammered in the mag box notwithstanding a longer box.

My usual procedure is to load one in the chamber and one in the mag. The point of the shell in mag box rides above the box wall and faces the loading ramp, so the recoil does not damage the point.

Yes it is only a two shooter, but I rarely ever need more than one shot. But a second shot comes in handy at times.

I also use the Ruger#1 often and latly a a revamped Handi 257 Roberts sofar with that one I only shot gophers with it but I think it will kill deer .