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Can a .38-55 single shot rifle be re-chambered to .375 2-1/2" NE without setting the barrel back?




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The base is larger on the 375 I'm too lazy to draw it up but it looks like it would work with extractor work


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The groove diameter is the problem. The 38-55 groove dia is .379 to .381. While the 375 is .375. Accuracy will really suck.



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..how about the .38-72WCF?.


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..how about the .38-72WCF?.


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The 38-55 groove dia is .379 to .381. While the 375 is .375. Accuracy will really suck

Well if you stayed with the cast bullets in the 375 it wouldn't work? But I can't see a reason to go to that expense and stay with cast.


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But I can't see a reason to go to that expense and stay with cast.

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I aggre with jens. You could go to the 38-72 which uses the same bullet as the 38-55 but finding brass might pose a problem



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You can do it, as long as the bore size is taken into account. If you've got a .375 bore, you're home free.

You can also use a .38-72 reamer instead, and use cheap Hornady 405 winchester brass to form your cases. Reamers for .38-72 are available for both .375 and .379 groove diameter. Dies are readily available at lower cost than .375 nitro. The 38-72 is essentially identical to the 375 nitro express 2 1/2 in performance, same case head within a few thousandths, about .005" smaller at the base and different case taper, has a slight neck where .375 nitro has straight taper.

I have a .38-72 in a single shot, it's a great rifle. Mine is .375 size, as is my reamer which I had custom ground for it.

Another cartridge that can be used is the .375-303 British. Its dimensions are so close to the .38-72 that they can be cut with the same reamer, just chamber short to match the fireformed .303 brass. Shorten a .38-72 die or have CH4D make you a short sizer or use a bushing neck sizer.

Still another cartridge that will work is the .38-50 Remington Hepburn. Again, it can be cut with the .38-72 reamer short, and CH4D has the dies for it. Fireform the brass out of .303 british or 30-40 Krag.

Still another cartridge that will work is the .375-444, also known as the 375 JDJ.

I have a CH4D bushing type forming die that was made to make .375-444 that can be used to reload any of these cases by neck sizing only. I have used it to form cases for .38-50 and .375-303 British from the parent brass after fireforming in the .38-72. After forming the neck with this die, I can finish them in the specific cartridge dies and trim them to length.


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The groove diameter is the problem. The 38-55 groove dia is .379 to .381. While the 375 is .375. Accuracy will really suck.


I was thinking of rechambering a Ruger No3. I contacted Ruger and asked what bore and groove diameters they used for their No3 and No1 rifles offered in 38-55. Here is what they said:
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The bore size is .373-.374 and groove size is .3790-.3805
So, I guess that rules it out.




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The groove diameter is the problem. The 38-55 groove dia is .379 to .381. While the 375 is .375. Accuracy will really suck.


I was thinking of rechambering a Ruger No3. I contacted Ruger and asked what bore and groove diameters they used for their No3 and No1 rifles offered in 38-55. Here is what they said:
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The bore size is .373-.374 and groove size is .3790-.3805
So, I guess that rules it out.


Yep it does. Too bad the 38/55 was originally made with that bastard bore size. That has killed a lot of possibilities.



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Too bad the 38/55 was originally made with that bastard bore size.


As a long time .38-72 shooter, I beg to differ; The .38-55 Winchester cartridge is named for its 38 caliber bullet and was introduced in 1876 by Ballard. That's " Thirty Eight "........not " Three Seventy Five ".

The .375 H&H was introduced by Holland & Holland in 1912.

The 375 Winchester was introduced in 1978.

I fail to see the logic in expecting a 38 to be anything but a 38, and also it seems that the 1876 date trumps the newer "bastard" bore sizes.
 
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Okay. The 38-55 wouldn't work out. I now have a Ruger No.3 that is factory chambered in .375 Winchester with a twist of 1 in 12". What smith has a 375 2-1/2" reamer?




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This is the reamer I would cut it with, and turn the rim recess on the lathe. Just chamber to the right depth. That's what I'm planning to do with mine when I build it.

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I would rather use the proper 375 2-1/2" NE reamer.




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