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13 November 2005, 02:10
1cav sgt retNewest Donor action
Enfield M1917 Winchester mfg
currently cal 30-06,first consideration is a 300H&H or if the barrel is no good ??? already have a 375H&H so I am looking at a possible 416Rem
anyone have pictures of modification's that are done with these action's ??
13 November 2005, 03:12
vapodogsorry...can't find my pics right now....will post them if I find them
you have a fine stock already...that's a big plus.
Get a bolt handle alteration, install a Timney trigger, and get a three position safety installed.
Here's the best advice I can offer for this action....unless you want to spend a lot of money get a new barrel in .338-06 or 9.3 X 62 because it don't require a lot of work to convert that action to serious power that way.
A 9.3 X 62 is enormous muscle, it will hold six rounds and you have nearly the performance of the .375 H&H without the fuss.
It can be converted to anything you want.....it's simply a matter of money.
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13 November 2005, 05:22
rootbeerJust about everything is a matter of money-- like getting married, buying a house, raising kids, getting a divorce, paying child support, paying alimony, selling the house and renting an apartment...
13 November 2005, 05:59
M1Tanker1 CAV
You have a PM
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13 November 2005, 06:02
M1Tankerquote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
Get a bolt handle alteration, install a Timney trigger, and get a three position safety installed.
Here's the best advice I can offer for this action....unless you want to spend a lot of money get a new barrel in .338-06 or 9.3 X 62 because it don't require a lot of work to convert that action to serious power that way.
A 9.3 X 62 is enormous muscle, it will hold six rounds and you have nearly the performance of the .375 H&H without the fuss.
I have to agree with Vapodog. Unless you want to spnd some serious money in altering the action and bottom metal the 9.3x62 is an excellent choice. I would also add the 35 Whelen to the list but I would choose the 9.3.
William Berger
True courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne
The courageous may not live forever, but the timid do not live at all.
13 November 2005, 15:40
1cav sgt retI haven't decided what to do with it yet,I have a 375 and a 35 Whelen IMP
I am hopeing it wont take very much to rechamber it to a 300H&H (I only have a hundred bucks in it so far!)
I may have to contact jeffeosso about the AR's(416AR sounds about right) the action is certanly Big enough
13 November 2005, 20:56
M1TankerYou you should feel guilty about picking that up so cheap!!!!
If you want a big bore you could very easily make it into a 458 WM with very little work compared to other calibers.
William Berger
True courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne
The courageous may not live forever, but the timid do not live at all.
13 November 2005, 21:51
bartschequote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
A 9.3 X 62 is enormous muscle, it will hold six rounds and you have nearly the performance of the .375 H&H without the fuss..
Will it still hold 6 rounds with magazine /trigger gaurd straightened out? I went that route once and I can't remember.

roger
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13 November 2005, 22:32
vapodogquote:
Will it still hold 6 rounds with magazine /trigger gaurd straightened out? I went that route once and I can't remember. roger
yes...in 9.3 X 62 it will.....in .375 H&H it won't.
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14 November 2005, 23:12
1cav sgt retdoes anyone have picture's of their sporterized Enfield's
I'd like to see how the bolt handle turns out
14 November 2005, 23:14
z1rCall me strange but I like that rifle as is. Oh, a scope might help, but otherwise.....
I'm a sucker for vintage.
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15 November 2005, 00:28
Hog Killer1cav,
Here is a Remington Model 30S, it is the same basic action as yours. I had it built into a 458 Lott. It handles and shoots great.
It will take three down and one in the pipe. I would never change the bolt handle or the saftey, as they work very well. The origial saftey is very positive acting and easy to operate. Personaly, I think that your rifle would loose a lot of "Character" if you tried to make it into another Win. M70, which it is not. The only way you could get six of anything in the mag would be with a drop box. As they only hold five '06s as is.
Hog Killer
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15 November 2005, 02:04
vapodogquote:
The only way you could get six of anything in the mag would be with a drop box. As they only hold five '06s as is.
this is correct.....plus one in the chamber is six...
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20 November 2005, 01:25
30 Caliber Mag Fan1cav sgt ret-
The following are some pictures of my M1917 that Dennis Olson sporterized. The action was a Remington, therefore, it did not have a duck pond to fill in. It has a new Lilja tube in .300 H&H. It also has a Wisner 3 position safety (Ed LaPour makes the same unit now). The bolt handle is a Jerome Glimm. The bases are Tally's.
I have another action that I am going to build a .375 H&H on to be the twin to this one.
1st cav, the take off barrel coming off the action for the .375 H&H is a 24 inch tube in .30-06 if you need an extra barrel; it's yours if you want it.
May the wind be in your face and the sun at your back.
P. Mark Stark
20 November 2005, 03:25
PCThat .300 H&H looks great.
The other cal for little work would be the 9.3x64 Brenneke, that does in fact = the .375 H&H power wise.
If I had an action like that big one I would spend the money and make a .416 Rigby classic and classy on that platform.................it's only money

20 November 2005, 03:35
ConSorry ... did someone say 358Norma Mag or STA?

I also like the look of the rifle as is. Would love to find one like that in Oz, but preferably based on a P14. I'd take an M17 like that though!!
Cheers...
Con
20 November 2005, 06:15
1cav sgt ret30cal mag fan
that's Very Nice
I like the way the bolt handle work's with the rest of the mod's
While I don't intend to change the safety (I like the way it work's and is very positive)however I have to change the bolt handle that's a knuckle rap waiting to happen,we've (the gunsmith and I) have decided to do a simple rechamber to 300Win Mag(the barrel is an arsinal replacement and has very sharp 4 groove land's and groove's) as I already have a set of die's and about 400 piece's of brass from the 300 winnie that has been sold but I do like the way the bolt release really cleans up the left side of the receiver,and squareing the bridge that's nice
20 November 2005, 06:21
vapodog30 cal mag fan.....that's beautiful....

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20 November 2005, 17:36
30 Caliber Mag FanFriends-
Thank you all for your complements!! I am very proud to say the least.
1cav sgt ret, you have a beautiful specimen of a m1917, especially the way they squared the rear receiver bridge. Like you say, a new bolt handle or straightening the old one will go a long way.
vapodog, thanks for the double thumbs up!!!
Best regards,
May the wind be in your face and the sun at your back.
P. Mark Stark
24 November 2005, 01:00
seafire/B17GYes Drill Sargent!
I like it...
I love it...
I want more of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gosh do I love those Enfields...
YOU boys are riflemen's riflemen!
cheers
seafire

24 November 2005, 04:49
MKane160Mark, that's absolutely gorgeous. You must be a proud papa.....
MKane160
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24 November 2005, 07:14
hartMark, thats beautiful. Is it possible to get a closeup picture of the rear of the bolt release to see how the back end of the spring is supported. The ones I have seen end up having a very weak spring pressure that sometimes will not hold the bolt release tight against the side of the receiver.
25 November 2005, 09:24
vigillinusThe dogleg bolt handle is well positioned for fast manipulation which is the reason the Brits shaped it that way. BI agree it wins no beauty contest and Remington eventually straightened it out on the 720. I have not shot a 1917 for years but don't remember having my knuckle bumped, maybe a magnum would be different.
08 December 2005, 20:08
1cav sgt retI was planning on replaceing the stock but it cleaned up very nicely
While it isn't nearly as nice as 30magfan's it should be a good shooter
08 December 2005, 20:11
1cav sgt ret
I still need to do the metalwork and rechamber but it's coming along nicely I think
08 December 2005, 20:45
GSP730magfan. Nice action. I still have a m30 and a m720 action waiting for projects. Im searching for someone with a nice stock pattern.
Id like to know about stock pattern your going to use for that custom enfield. Did Dennis have a slick pattern for that?
Rick