Okay, so I go to Canada, and while there purchase a rifle that I want to bring back to the United States with me.

What is all involved?

How about the other way around. I take a rifle to Canada and while there somebody wants to purchase it from me.

Thinking about one of those cheap Brnos? Before they changed the laws up there, I bought quite a few. To legally bring into the USA, you must get a Form 6 approved by BATF and have a FFL transfer to you. The big hang-up now is in Canada where all guns are registered and to transfer one to someone else is a big deal. All my sources in Canada dried up the minute they passed the new laws, before that I was getting several each year. A Canadian can explain it better. A little easier in some European countries now.

I was looking at purchasing a rifle several months back. Paperwork on both sides of the border, the simplest way is to find a FFL with a impoters license ( important ). There are fees associated with firearms importing and a one time deal gets costly for any FFL dealer to pay the licensing.

Then expect delays on the border, my FFL had a shipment that took almost 6 months on the Canadian side. He has done several of these and the six months was the worst, not trying to scare you about this, but you are dealing with bureaucrates on both sides of the border and delay should be expected, nature of the beast I suppose.

Not a clue what to do to import a firearm into Canada, maybe Kuteney or one of Candian friends can enlighten you, as they would have a better idea.

Here is the Canadian Firearms web site http://www.cfc.gc.ca or phone 1 800 731 4000. This is the easiest way to find out the info.
Cheers Bill.

FLA3006

You got that right!

And, weren't the "Old days" nice, when a guy could just say to another guy, hey, I want to buy your gun, and hand over the cash, and that was it!!

quote:

bureaucrates on both sides of the border

There is the problem.

The form 6 was required as previously posted, which isn't to difficult, the difficulty was the importers license, if I recall correctly this is a yearly fee and is very expensive, $10,000 or so, and unless your FFL already has the license it makes importing one firearm prohibitive. If anyone has better information on this clue me in cause I to have my eye North when I am looking for BRNO's.

It is not necessary to have an importer license to import a rifle or shotgun, as long as it isn't a military rifle. Just apply to the BATF with a Form 6, which they will approve in about a month, and have the seller send it to your dealer, who will perform the normal transfer.

The main problem I have had buying overseas is at the seller end: often there are legal requirements for exporting or transferring to another person, depends on the country.

Sounds like it may be easier just to pony up the extra $$$ and buy one in your own country.

Terry

quote:

TC1: Sounds like it may be easier just to pony up the extra $$$ and buy one in your own country.

All depends. Brnos for instance are relatively scarce in the USA and the demand seems to be greater here, hence much higher prices locally.

TC1

who said anything about "one"?

May be easier to get a Canadian license (which a non Canadian can do) and then you only thing you need to worry about is doing the US paperwork, and leave it registered in Canada as well. If you take it home with you I am not sure that this would be "exporting" as it would still have Canadian history.

If I wanted to buy guns here in Canada and I was an American, I would either develope a good friendship with a knowledgable Canadian gunnut or get my own Canadian PAL. Any gun you import into the USA is going to have a papertrail on it anyway, so, the Canadian registration is not really a big deal, IMHO. The better gunstores here will export to the USA, but, it does add cost to the deal, so, you need to make sure that the gun you are buying is worth it.

On Brnos, be aware that these were not an expensive rifle here when they were sold at retail, so, many of them have been used hard and sometimes re-blued. There are plenty of slimey guntraders here, too, so caution is in order. I just examined a 21H at this ayems Vancouver gunshow, it showed substantial wear and the guy was asking $750.00 Canuckbux, but, he tried to hide the d/t holes on the square bridges with Warne rings....and was quite annoyed when I dared to check this!

I do find nice ones every so often and may have a roundtop 21H 8x57 coming to me soon, in decent shape for about five bills in USD. This type of rifle is a donnor piece as far as I am concerned as these are these are the best actions for mountain rifles.

So much for NAFTA

It's not NAFTA it's BATF and it worse trying to get stuff OUT of the US.