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02 February 2023, 02:46
Austin Hunter
M98 Welding Question
Question - I have a ZG47 that was made into a commercial rifle by Parker Hale.

On the left side of the receiver (not the ring) it has a pretty deep imprinted "Parker Hale" and "HUSSAR" letters. Too deep to surface grind.

If I had it welded and surface ground, would I need to reheat treat it? If so, probably going to keep the lettering.


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02 February 2023, 05:38
Fal Grunt
As long as you have a competent individual weld it, no you would not need to have it heat treated.

However....

I can almost guarantee that if you hot salt blue the receiver the filler material will not match up with the parent metal.


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02 February 2023, 06:15
Austin Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by Fal Grunt:
As long as you have a competent individual weld it, no you would not need to have it heat treated.

However....

I can almost guarantee that if you hot salt blue the receiver the filler material will not match up with the parent metal.


Thanks! Would rust bluing avoid the matching issue?

I have a M98 Husqvarna had has side receiver scope mount that had the screw holes welded before I got it. I had to stone the inside of the action a bit and had the action hot blued. However, I don't remember if the screw holes were above or below the stock line. I'm traveling right now and need to check when I get home. I honestly don't remember any difference or them showing. But maybe I got lucky or they were below the stock line and I don't remember!


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02 February 2023, 23:24
Kolo-Pan
If it shows have a little engraving done there.


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03 February 2023, 02:25
Fal Grunt
Rust bluing will greatly reduce any chance of it showing.

I have spent hours playing with different alloys, different processes, and different receivers, and have found no hard line, guaranteed match. Some receivers will weld beautifully and you can't see anything, and inexplicably the next will clearly stand out.

The closest I have found is annealing a receiver, welding it, heat treating it, and you will get a really close match.


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03 February 2023, 20:52
z1r
quote:
Originally posted by Fal Grunt:
Rust bluing will greatly reduce any chance of it showing.

I have spent hours playing with different alloys, different processes, and different receivers, and have found no hard line, guaranteed match. Some receivers will weld beautifully and you can't see anything, and inexplicably the next will clearly stand out.

The closest I have found is annealing a receiver, welding it, heat treating it, and you will get a really close match.


I too have found that welding first, then having the receiver heat treated virtually eliminates this issue.




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08 February 2023, 04:05
Atkinson
I had a gunsmith weld up the side lettering and pitting using bailing wire on a 98 mauser and it worked like a charm..


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