In lieu of cash I recently received this in consideration for repairs/operation instructions on his STAR Lubrisizer.

I have never seen one of these 1903 firing pin bolt sleeve, rocker style safety and receiver sight base all in one. Solves the scope clearance issue for sure, though a pretty pricey solution.

The staff part of the sight is missing.
Does anyone know if any of the currently manufactured receiver sight parts will fit.
If I were smart enough I would post a picture, because I doubt a whole lot of folks have seen one of these bolt sleeves(then again, maybe just my naivete of parts firearms speaking here too).

It took me a few minutes to figure out that STAR luber so I could determine what I needed to machine to get it operational. Pretty dang slick design on that luber I must say.

Well the same ingenuity on the bolt sleeve assembly. IF it is compatible with my aftermarket triggers I may just have to put it in one of my guns.
Only markings on the Bolt Sleeve is Hoffman Arms Co. ?(I forget city) Ohio

I guess they made these for guns they were building at some time in the past.

I remember reading about the Griffin and Howe, M1903 sleeve sight in 1920s Arms and the Man, or American Rifleman.




https://www.gunsinternational....cfm?gun_id=101422013

A missing elevation staff is a pretty major part to lose. I bet it was taken off when the rifle was scoped. And once the rifle and staff were parted, well the staff is gone. I don't know where you would find any parts at all. Someone with a machine shop would have to create new parts.

The only other suggestion is buy a whole bunch of vintage rear sights and see the elevation staffs fit. Which I doubt, as this is a Griffin and Howe sight, and why should they make it interchangeable with anyone else's gear?

Hard to know what one of those is worth. Shooters don't use Lyman 48S's on 03's anymore. Heck, who uses 03's except for banging away in vintage military rifle matches?

The book, "The Modern Gunsmilth" by Howe, give deailed plans to make the sleve, sight and safety combo you mention.

Looks lile you better have a background in watchmaking!

I bid on one of those about 10 years ago, but it was a less common variant. I remember the price, $800, because it was two weeks pay. I just had to let it go. I thought I had saved the ebay listing but I cannot find it now.

Duane, thanks for the reference to Howe, I have his "Professional Gunsmith" book and I never knew he had another!

Yes Slamfire, that be it!
Thank You!
Wonder if the rest of it is in someone junk?wish drawer or long since thrown away as junk.

Since it is complete with firing pin, I may have to see if it will work as a safety with scoped rifle.

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Originally posted by Fal Grunt:
I bid on one of those about 10 years ago, but it was a less common variant. I remember the price, $800, because it was two weeks pay. I just had to let it go. I thought I had saved the ebay listing but I cannot find it now.

Duane, thanks for the reference to Howe, I have his "Professional Gunsmith" book and I never knew he had another!

The plans start in Vol.II Page 282..If you don't have that, I can run off a copy Let me know

Mine does not have READY stamped on the safety selector so I have no idea how it falls in the production sequence.
Does he mention whether the "staff" is unique or the same as one of the "current period" receiver sights?

The book seems to be still in publication

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb...mith%2C+Howe+&ia=web

Duckduckgo.com does NOT track you like googglespyeyesdoes

quote:

Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
The plans start in Vol.II Page 282..If you don't have that, I can run off a copy Let me know

I appreciate the offer Duane!

Ebay had the two volume set for $38 so I ordered that.

Thank you though!

and Howe

Wow, book arrived yesterday and I am IMPRESSED!

When I went to CST I wish they had given us these books as text books instead of all the worthless garbage they did!

VERY IMPRESSED!

From the looks it will be a well traveled book by the time it ever . . .EVER gets to me.
NOT far, nor fast, but local run around it seems.
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I reckon it does not want to leave the west.

yes the third world virus has infected the post office

Looking at the google earth map of Shawmut, MT I think 3rd world is unlikely.
Anyway book came in Monday's mail from C. Jocobs Store in Shawmut, MT.
The best packed package I have ever received from an ebay seller or anyone else for that matter.
Indestructible plastic sack with clear cushioning wrapped (sender and receivers addresses enclosed in that layer)book that has one more layer of plain paper. This person has it down to thwart the PO at every level.

Guess I will b delving into it this afternoon.

Most if not all of the receiver sights mounted on the cocking piece has all manor of problems in that the had movement that opened up groups to one degree or another...Several gun smiths brought this to my attention..I liked the concept on my African type English rifles but stayed with barrel mounted rear sights or Talley Peep.

Any experts on this post are welcome as to these bolt mounted sights would be appreciated.