Gentlemen,

I have a new M70 Safari 416Rem. I knew that the factory one-piece bottom metal was William's, but I had thought that all of the factory extractor's were Winchester MIM units. My extractor looks identical to the William's unit pictured in his advertisement in this months Rifle Magazine w/ the M-R marking(I assume this indicates Magnum-Right hand action).

Recently I read a post on one of the talk forums (not sure if it was this one, 24hr or Graybeard) that claimed Winchester made a handful of special production-line M70 rifles to be as perfect as they could make to mark the end of production. That poster claimed that these rifles could be identified by having the William's extractors.

Can anyone shed some light on this???

Gary

Gary,

Yes, you have a Williams extractor. But I doubt the validity of that little story. Most of the M70 Classics I've looked over, in say, the past year or so, have had machined extractors.

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Originally posted by mudstud:
Gary,

Yes, you have a Williams extractor. But I doubt the validity of that little story. Most of the M70 Classics I've looked over, in say, the past year or so, have had machined extractors.

I found the story, it was posted on GrayBeards Forum. It claimed a few "Super Rifles" were built just prior to the closing announcement. The story is total BS as the secret marking was "S-R" on the extractor for "Super Rifle".

Anyhow, it appears that most of the extractors installed over the last couple years were machined Williams and not the MIM extractors.

Thanks,
Gary

Super Rifle ehh......LOL

We've been making extractors for Winchester for about 3 years now. They still had some MIM'd parts that they were weeding out that got mixed in too, but 99% of them were using our extractors.

The designation on the bottom reads as follows:

M-R Magnum Right-Hand
M-L Magnum Left-Hand
S-R Standard Right-Hand
S-L Standard Left Hand

All extractors shipped to USRAC has been in 416 Stainless Steel. They first began teflon coating them black, so that they would come close to matching the finish of the receiver, but later dropped that process to leave them in a more or less in-the-white finish.

All of the extractors and bottom metal that has been leaving our plant in the last several weeks as fast as we can ship them, has been allocated for FN's SPR sniper rifles. All custom shop orders and Super Grade rifles are no longer on the build list.

I do hope we get some "Super Rifle" orders though.....can't wait to see what the bottom metal requirements will be for that baby.....

Mr. Williams,

I have the above 416 and a couple Supergrades w/ your one-piece bottom metal and I must say I appreciate your product. Now that I've looked over your extractor, I would suggest anyone w/ the old MIM unit to toss them in favor of your drop-in.

Thanks,
Gary