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04 December 2003, 06:13
Bakes
Need help...another Mauser ID
Folks can you help me out. This mauser is in .308 (as stamped on the barrel) On the action is a small crown with the words " FABRICA DE ARMA" and "OVIEDO" "1901" Apart from what I think are proof markings, thats it. Any ideas? What could this action be made into?

Thanks
Bakes
04 December 2003, 06:25
jeffeosso
aint that the spanish 98? funky short stock and ugly barrel?

jeffe
04 December 2003, 06:46
Bakes
Mate I don't know. It is ugly!

[ 12-03-2003, 21:47: Message edited by: Bakes ]
04 December 2003, 08:48
TGetzen
More likely a small ring 93/95 action that was originally (and should have been left so) a 7x57.
04 December 2003, 14:28
Bakes
I might have to convert it back to 7x57. I can't leave it as a boring .308 [Wink]
04 December 2003, 14:36
TCLouis
Does it cock when you open the action, or when you close the action?

LouisB
05 December 2003, 00:16
Bakes
LouisB
I don't know. The rifle is in the safe at work. The cocking peice looks like my M96 and the bolt face has a squared off section on the bottom where it picks up the round.
05 December 2003, 00:31
Ron Morse
quote:
Originally posted by Bakes:
LouisB
I don't know. The rifle is in the safe at work. The cocking peice looks like my M96 and the bolt face has a squared off section on the bottom where it picks up the round.
If it has a flat on the bottom front of the bolt it it a model 93
05 December 2003, 01:44
Bubba John
Spanish arsenal redone '93 or 95.Safe in .308??Not for me.
05 December 2003, 02:43
Bobster
A surplus 6.5x55 Swede barrel would give you an appropriate and economical option. .257 Roberts is also safe. I read in Olsen's book that a 6.8x57(.277) was once made for the Chinese - that would be unique.
05 December 2003, 03:27
Bakes
I have a 6.5x55 (2 actually). Would it be safe to reballel to 7x57 you think?
05 December 2003, 03:59
dan belisle
Yes, it would. That was the original caliber I think. - Dan
05 December 2003, 06:15
Dave James
Bakes the only one I have marked OVIDIO, is a model 95 in 7x57, it came out of RSA and time period is BOER WAR, the 95 differs from the 93 as I remember, due to the small metalblock in the stock just behind the bolt
05 December 2003, 07:13
nainital
Bakes: the correct wording is "OVIEDO", perhaps you could also find "FABRICA DE ARMAS and LA CORU�A". It�s a 93 or 95 converted for the military, more likely a 93. Many thousands were converted to .308. Never saw a report about being unsafe, by the way.
05 December 2003, 08:26
gunnut69
They were converted to 7.62 Nato. A round that generates lower pressures than a commercial 308. They are supposedly safe as chambered but I also concur,,'not for me!!'. Would make a dandly 7x57 and barrels are available as surplus from GunParts.
05 December 2003, 09:12
Bakes
Thank you fella's. I think I'll convert it to a 7x57 sporter. I have a brazilian 7x57 that I was going to tinker with in the near future, this will save me chopping that up.
05 December 2003, 10:11
Tailgunner
quote:
Originally posted by gunnut69:
They were converted to 7.62 Nato. A round that generates lower pressures than a commercial 308. They are supposedly safe as chambered but I also concur,,'not for me!!'. Would make a dandly 7x57 and barrels are available as surplus from GunParts.
Wern't they actualy converted to 7.62CTME? Same exact dimentions as the 7.62NATO cartridge, but at a much lower pressure than the Nato round.
05 December 2003, 13:13
m1carbine
Yes they were intended to fire the ctme round which is a 40,000 psi round not the 7.62 nato which is a 50,000 psi, and not .308 Winny which is a 60,000+ round.

They all have approximatly the same demensions so it creates alot of confusion. I would either reload week 308 rounds for it, or rebarrel to a lower presure small ring mauser round.

Ray
06 December 2003, 04:16
TGetzen
Bakes,

RE: re-barrel to 7x57, I'd pull the barrel first and look at the lug recesses to make sure they aren't hammered back from firing 308 Win. From what I understand, these don't usually fail catastrophically, but the headspace grows and grows. Also, they may have altered the feeding of the receiver for 308 -- it may not feed 7x57 any more. Try that too.

Todd
06 December 2003, 13:14
Bakes
I'll get it checked out by my gunsmith before I do anything. Thanks for the info Todd.
07 December 2003, 08:21
bartsche
Leave it in the ho hum .308 and use mild hand loads. Your money could be spent on something more rewarding. Having a GS check it out may cost more than it's worth. Even healthy 7x57 loads will eventually effect head space. It isn't a really gigantic problem but who needs it? Does "silk purse--sows ear" have any meaning to you? [Roll Eyes] [Wink]