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Disappointed in PT&G WInchester bottom metal.
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Chuck Nelson
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Pretty disappointing at best.

http://shop.pacifictoolandgaug...6_40&products_id=515
 
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Pretty disappointing at best.

A more detailed review would be beneficial


As usual just my $.02
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A picture is worth a thousand words.

It would have been nice to have seen a straddle floorplate.
 
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Chuck what are you seeing that you don't like? I must be missing something. Confused



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A picture is worth a thousand words.

It would have been nice to have seen a straddle floorplate.


Looks pretty good for $109. Of course, I bet if he doubled the price and made it a straddle, twice as many people would want it. Big Grin




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Tripple the price for a straddle


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I'm odd, I never much cared for straddle floorplates. I install a lot though.




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It sure isn't false advertising. It looks very similar to an Oberndorf inside the trigger bow setup. Looks very nice to me.


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Does anyone know if they can be easily fitted to pre-'64 actions? If they can, I have a good home for four of them.
 
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You get what you pay for.

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You can't compare a $400 part to a $109 part. There is a reason Duane charges what he does for his parts.
Which is still very reasonable


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Yup
The market Dave Kiff is aiming at is huge. The guy knows how to make a buck in this industry making a quality product of less-than-Guild refinement.


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You get what you pay for.

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You can't compare a $400 part to a $109 part. There is a reason Duane charges what he does for his parts.
Which is still very reasonable
 
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For the price it looks better than OEM. If it would fit a pre 64 I'd put one on my Dad's old .270 Featherweight. I also don't particularly care for a straddle plate. They look nice but all the extra metal does is add weight.

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Looks like a good value to me.
 
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Yup
The market Dave Kiff is aiming at is huge. The guy knows how to make a buck in this industry making a quality product of less-than-Guild refinement.


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You get what you pay for.

Two.
You can't compare a $400 part to a $109 part. There is a reason Duane charges what he does for his parts.
Which is still very reasonable


There are probably 20 or more folks that can afford & are willing to spend 109.00 on the PTG bottom metels for every ONE that can afford 400.00 on a single top shelf unit. Two completely different markets. If you were making them which market would you target?
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That's why we have Sabattis versus Heyms
 
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Chuck what are you seeing that you don't like? I must be missing something. Confused


+1

Do you have one in your hand to look at?
 
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That is a great piece of machining for $109. If it is just the design you don't like, well that should not be a complaint about this one. If it is quality, I would be surprised as I have about 20 reamers from Dave, most of my own design, and he always does perfect work.
 
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How one can make any semblance of an intelligent or honest assesment from a stock photograph is beyond me.....

I agree the photograph used could be better.

But the product looks fantastic. And 4 for the price of one- a no brainer there.

I seriously doubt there is a significant quality difference, rather the price differential is more of a function of overhead.




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Chuck Nelson
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They went to the trouble of straddling the 700 stuff for the same price. It's just too bad the didn't do it with the Model 70. And yes I have a bunch of their bottom metal.
 
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They went to the trouble of straddling the 700 stuff for the same price. It's just too bad the didn't do it with the Model 70. And yes I have a bunch of their bottom metal


So your issue is not the quality etc but that it isn't a straddle?

The m700 sraddle is more than they are asking for the M70.


As usual just my $.02
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It is with the design.
 
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Does anyone have one of these in hand? When I ordered one a year ago what showed up was a 700 style bottom metal for the Model 70. When I called and asked why the mix up I was told what I wanted did not exist. I asked why it was pictured on the website and they said it was an upcoming product. The pictured item, at the time, was not for a Mod 70.


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Id go with Williams for model 70 bottom metal.
 
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Does anyone have one of these in hand? When I ordered one a year ago what showed up was a 700 style bottom metal for the Model 70. When I called and asked why the mix up I was told what I wanted did not exist. I asked why it was pictured on the website and they said it was an upcoming product. The pictured item, at the time, was not for a Mod 70.


I'll be interesting to see what they ship me. I just ordered an aluminum Oberndorf for my M70 Safari. We shall see when I get home.
 
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