Hi
I've heard so much bad about ruger's trigger, but in my surprise my new ruger 77 has one of the nicest trigger i've ever seen. short , distict and very light . it goes off around a pound or maybe a little bit mor. guys this gun is a delight to shoot. my qustion is : if ruger has improved their trigger quality on new guns? or all talking about ruger's trigger is just ballony? please tell me about the new rugers if you own one and have expreinced the same as me.

regards
YES

Yes, the new Ruger trigger is non adjustable and can with some spring and stone work be lowered to a good safe pull. Compared to other triggers Winchester or Remington for example it is much more difficult to adjust .

I replaced the trigger on my 77 Mark II with a Rifle Basix adjustable trigger. The replacement is easy, and instructions for doing the replacement and the adjustment come with the trigger. I've forgotten how much I paid for it, but I got it on sale from Midway -- it was probably somewhere around $50.

I do not regard this trigger as being as good as what you can get a Remington 700 trigger to be with a bit of work, but it is considerably better than what came from the Ruger factory.

I recently bought a Ruger, and the trigger was about 7 lbs. and very creepy. I replaces the pin in the trigger with one that fit, smoothed out the burrs on the sear, and replaced the spring. Now it's a very nice 2 1/2 lbs.

I don't know about the new Rugers, but I replaced my factory trigger with a Timney trigger. I went from a 6 lb pull to a crisp 2.5 lb pull with no creep. The Timney triggers are easy to install and easy to adjust.

I replased the spring with one from a Bic and stoned the trigger and sear according to this:

http://www.centerfirecentral.com/77trigger.html

You see, in Denmark a aftermarket trigger form Midway Denmark costs from $143 to $175, so the hour and a half i spent smoothing and grinding payed off big time The result is a crisp break at a cosistant 620 grams/1,4lbs with no creep.

yes, I've a few Rugers and replaced with a Timney-easy fix. You obviously have come across a "special" rifle. cheers.

I worked my M77 MkII down to 3.5 pounds, just as The Dane did. I'd never done it before, but it wasn't hard to do - I didn't change any angles, though. (One benefit of the current Ruger trigger is that it is the simplest trigger to disassemble that I've ever experienced. After doing it a few times, I could remove the trigger and sear, put them on the table, and reassemble, in about 30 seconds!)

I think the next time I'd replace the trigger. The quality was fine, but when it had to back to Ruger for a headspace problem, Ruger "fixed" it back to factory standards. Strangely, that was a 4.5 pound trigger that, had it been in there originally, I would have left alone and shot it as is. If you have to return the rifle, you can remove the Timney trigger, put the original back in, and send the rifle off without them mucking up your reworked trigger.

I'd suggest changing the trigger spring first - that helps a lot all by itself and requires no filing. The next thing I'd try is sanding (coarse grit sandpaper) the top of the trigger to remove the machine marks that drag against the sear. Who knows? You may save $60 - or $140 in Denmark!

Jaywalker

Whoa, Jaywalker, not coarse sandpaper on the sear!! I use 1500 grit from a NAPA auto store, and if you wrap a little strip around a nail file, you put a mirror finish on the sear surfaces, without removing any more than a fraction of 1/1000 inch. A dab of moly grease, and grind off about 1/2 turn of the spring, and you get a decent hunting pull of about 3 lbs. Lighter springs will reduce it more, but test it by bouncing the butt on the floor, before loading up.

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If you have to return the rifle, you can remove the Timney trigger, put the original back in, and send the rifle off without them mucking up your reworked trigger.

If you replace the original trigger after removing the Timney the safety will not work so you will be stuck with a bill for the Safety as well. 9 dollars for the part plus shipping the gun.

Lanny, I'm certain your way is better and generates a better result. I had coarse sandpaper, though, and it worked to remove the gross toolmarks across the top of the trigger.

SempreElk, okay, I suppose you're right. I know you have to dremmel something to get the Timney to fit, but since I didn't do it, it would have been a learning experience. If that's the case, you're out of luck, since Ruger won't sell trigger parts. I wonder what they'd do if you returned a rifle for work with a Timney...

Jaywalker

I have done all of my 77 Mks triggers down....

Simple with a honning stone....

The first couple I did with a Drimmel....
Then I got crap about Bubba Gunsmithing, so I went with the honning stone.. took more time.. but didn't make me feel as bad....

I messed one up out of TEN so I bought a Dayton Traister trigger for $45.00... but consider the costs of TEN trigger jobs.... it was a cheap tuition price...

[ SempreElk, okay, I suppose you're right. I know you have to dremmel something to get the Timney to fit, but since I didn't do it, it would have been a learning experience. If that's the case, you're out of luck, since Ruger won't sell trigger parts. I wonder what they'd do if you returned a rifle for work with a Timney...

I'm talking about personal experience and it was not fun..I had 2 ruger rifles and messed up one safety and took the other out and did the job right the 2nd time. Unfortunately Ruger did not sell the part so the gun went back and they replaced it for about 30 dollars. YOu live and learn I guess and I learned. They would probably keep the Timney and charge you for a new trigger
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SempreElk,

So maybe you send back the rifle without the trigger and tell them "the rifle won't shoot."

Worst they'll do is charge you for the parts, I guess, which aren't too expensive. $30 is a lot cheaper than trigger jobs around here, which is one reason I did it myself.


Then you can dremmel it again...unless you're concerned about "bubba-izing..."

Jaywalker

I too have had great sucess by carefully polishing all the metal bearing surfaces on my pre-lawyer trigger M77's. Seems to drop about one pound by just polishing alone! I use autobody paper in increasingly fine grit and it works great!

You can get a pound or two off by changing the spring. I went with the Wolff spring for $5, plus $4 delivery, and truly simple to replace.

Jaywalker

If you found a Ruger with a really good trigger from the factory it was an accident on Ruger's part, they just don't make 'em like that on purpose.
You should be aware, as someone pointed out, that Ruger will "fix/replace" ANY part on your rifle they deem necessary when they service it. EVEN if you don't want them to. I've heard reports of people who lost their Timney triggers to Ruger and they wouldn't send them back to them. Unless these people are lying, which I have no way of knowing, this is the state of affairs with Ruger. While I consider this stealing parts, if true, I would NEVER leave such parts on a gun I sent in for repair. I would keep the old parts and install them before shipping. This lets Ruger off the hook, and they're free to fix your gun to their specs and then you can reinstall your custom parts. In all honesty, I bet Ruger would probably return your custom trigger to you, just not in the gun, but why take the chance.

SempreElk

Your safety should not cause you a problem switching back from your Timney to stock. Normally you can't get the safety on after installing the Timney trigger, so you have to file down the pad that the safety bears against until it will go on safe. It is kind of an aggravation, so I just rework the stock trigger now. The pad you're filing on should be the Timney part, so shouldn't affect the safety.