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I just bought a set of these and like them, especially the curved head scrapers. The straight blade scraper was real thin, almost paper thin and I peeled a nice chunk out of a corner asap. Anyway, I do like the curved head pair. Anybody have these and how do you get back the cutting burr once it's lost. Something this thin has me screwing it up written all over it.


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I bought a set about 3 mo back........not sure how I ever inletted a stock without them.

I have used mine quite a bit, I really like them. As far as the cutting burr/shapening. I sharpen mine on the same stone I sharpen everything else on. I haven't done the push it across the back of the vise thing to get a burr on it, I just sharpen mine. Not sure thats the right thing to do, but thats What I do.


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I make all my scrapers from old good metal screw drivers that I find at pawn shops for 50 cents apiece, heat them, bend them and sharpen them...I do use some of the good Jerry Fisher scrapers from Brownells, the are the only ones I have ever been satisfied with, they really work, the are cheap, and they are a little soft, but thats OK for what I use them for, they come round square octogan and they don't cost much...I may have 200 scrapers and more built every job..one for every chore is my goal, but seems to be neverending! thumb


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The way to get that bur back on that fine edge is to use a burnishing tool. Drag it length way along the scraper edge. If you can imagine how you hold an apple to peel it you'll get the idea. Your turning the scraper edge creating the burr again. I hope ths helps. Painters have been useing this technique on their paint scrapers for eons.



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where do you order these from? are they the ones from Bronells, I ordered a couple of those and was happy when I tried them out, haven't played with a stock in a while so never got real familiar with them.

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I ordered them thru Brownells. I like them, except for the one. It just had to be too thin. I was just scraping with mild pressure and next thing you know a corner peeled off. Instead of returning it, I in my usual wisdom, proceeded to "fix it" homer

Where does one aquire a burnishing tool?


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You can get burnishers at just about any good tool shop or you can order them from wood working tool suppliers like Woodworkers, Garrett Wade, etc.

I've also used kitchen butchers steels to roll the edge of scrapers after filing them and that also works. You just need a smooth piece of round steel that is harder than the steel in the scraper.

Just using a burnisher does not restore the hooked cutting edge on a scraper though.

Scrapers for wood do not need to be heat treated so you are not going to hurt them by using a grinding wheel or a file to set up the edge prior to rolling it with the burnisher. That's what Fischer recommends in the instructions that come with their scrapers.
 
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I'm of the opinon the Fisher scrapers are hard as my wifes head. I've hit a couple with a file and they sure seemed hard to me, but what do I know, I only have seven scrapers Smiler


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Use stones to sharpen scrapers not files.



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Use stones to sharpen scrapers not files.


Why is that? The portion of the scraper worked with a file or grinder is not the part that does the scraping. The scraping is done by the edge that is rolled over into a hook shape by a burnisher.

I have a scraper blade sharpening unit used by cabnet makers to sharpen and maintain the edges on their scrapers and the unit holds a mill file to be used to prep the edge prior to burnishing.

Read the instructions that come with the Fisher Scrapers. They recommend refreshing the worn edge with a grinder.
 
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Why is that? The portion of the scraper worked with a file or grinder is not the part that does the scraping. The scraping is done by the edge that is rolled over into a hook shape by a burnisher

That sharp edge that is rolled over was first created by the sharpening stones.



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That sharp edge that is rolled over was first created by the sharpening stones.


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You sharpen and dress your scrapers however you want to... fair enough?
 
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Two different deals. The Fishers use a fixed edge like Al Linden's pieces of barrels cut square (and somewhat difficult roll) while the Royals are much more of a knife edge which responds well to being turned over.

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I stated above that the Fishers are soft, by that I ment they tend to bend if you do hard scraping...the are heat treated on the ends I am sure...Good tool..

For octogon barrels I use a short piece of octogan barrel as a scraper...

Mostly I quickly burnish a scraper with the very back edge of my pocket knife, sometimes I omit burnishing all together!! depends on the wood, I like a slick smooth surface showing under the scraper and sometimes a sharp scraper does that better...


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