Hi i have a 30 06 mag box that i would like to
use for 220 swift
Will a .200 spacer at the back work??
Thanks Sydney

Yes, of course. I don't even use the spacers; it is not needed.
That is how factory shorter mag boxes are made.

The factory Swift box has a angled plate in the front of the box.

Then a special ODD dimple in the front 1/3 of the box on each side that lines up with the shoulder of the case.

Then another angled plate in the rear to keep the rims from hanging up on each other.

J Wisner

quote:

Originally posted by J Wisner:
The factory Swift box has a angled plate in the front of the box.

Then a special ODD dimple in the front 1/3 of the box on each side that lines up with the shoulder of the case.

Then another angled plate in the rear to keep the rims from hanging up on each other.

J Wisner

i.e. they've made a quazi slant magazine.

True, but I've built too many on Mausers that still work. The rim is really small..... Still best to load them with the rims on top in front of the others.
For those who can't remember how to load it, yes, slanted box fronts and rears would be necessary.

Hey Tom! Is mine gonna work?

Hip

Yes, yours works fine! Herters J9 with the intermediate action.

In a perfect world where the gun owner is smarter than the firearm and the ammo, Tom is correct.


A story from the early 90's when my parents ran a large Gun Shop, and was service centers for 7 Firearm companies

A Weatherby MKV came in for feeding issues, customer said it would flat not feed.
So the one gunsmith went thru it and could not find a problem, Dad always double checked things and he could not find a problem
When the customer came to pick the rifle up, he was told that no problem feeding could be found.
The customer took the rifle out side to his car, and came storming back into the shop about ten minutes later.
Boy was he pissed off, he told Dad that there was something wrong with the rifle as he just tried to load the rifle and it still would not feed

Dad took the rifle from the customer and went to his work bench, and removed the firing pin assembly, so he could safely run ammo thru it
He then put the bolt back in the rifle, loaded up the magazine and with the customer standing about 20 foot away Dad then worked the bolt like you should and emptied the loaded magazine in front of the customer.

The customer says WHAT, how did you do that.
Dad brings the rifle and ammo to the counter and asks the customer to load the magazine so Dad could watch.
After the second shell the customer puts into the rifle Dad stops him

Dad then told this customer, that the pointy part of the ammo is the bullet and it has to go toward the barrel.
And the round silver thing is the primer and that goes toward the bolt

Yes the customer was loading the rifle with the ammo in backwards.


Now you know why Winchester tried to make their Swift magazines idiot proof

Jim Wisner

Good story that!

In my decades of being a firearms instructor.

One learns to start with the basics.

OMG! That one takes the cake.
I like to say that that American shooters are spoiled, untrained, and ignorant. (Because I see them all the time; fully half of hunters kill game purely by luck) Every time I get PMs telling me how wrong I am because the writer knows this or that.
No, I'm right.

Happens...was on a hog hunt, one shooter had a jam....Could not understand how a round got backwards in the magazine of his AR.

I just grinned and told it happens all the time.

When I started high school in the 60's at age 13 we had in school military training for the first few weeks when school resumed after the summer holidays.

Among everything else we learned we were made to practice until perfect while laying down, sitting, standing and running, the loading of the 10 round slanted box magazines for the SMLE battle rifle and the 30 round banana magazines for the Bren LMG. The rimmed 303 cartridges had to be loaded in the magazines with each rim on top in front of the others. The army instructors stressed that your life and those of your fellow combatants could well be taken if you got it wrong in a battle situation.

Never forgotten that training and never had any trouble when using the old SMLE rifles for hunting.

In the below video at 5.48 one can see that the person had the magazine loaded with the bullet back wards.

She is no longer of this world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8muhpuXN7E